Warrior General Games

I've heard generally that we must either choose a passer or a runner QB here on GLB. But has anyone ever actually tried building a dual threat QB successfully? What's the conventional wisdom on this - just that there aren't enough skill points to make him effective in both?


What would the build look like? Scrambler QB

Atty 1 - Speed
Atty 2 - Throwing
Atty 3 - Agility
Atty 4 - Vision
Atty 5 - Strength
Atty 6 - Vision


Would a player like this ever be elite at the higher tier leagues?

No.

http://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=5291289&page=2#49716786

Even if you could find some formula to have all the optimized attributes, the sim is broken. The QB runs directly into the defense instead of away from them.

It's possible it was done on purpose to prevent Madden-Mike Vick exploits.

The only way it would be possible is with two sets of Equipment and 2 game plans. Have passing EQ and throw, next game do Speed EQ and run. Which would basically mean the OC would have to build the QB.

Don't bother, it's not worth the effort.

You can build a QB that is a threat to throw picks and fumbles a lot. Does that count as dual threat ?

Nope

http://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4671895

not really. If you keep them in the regional leagues they can be ok... but like if your team is shit, they play far worse than any kind of player in this game..probably because confidence will be low. But he was on a good team once and played ok. but no, I don't think so. Still fun to try! and to try to convince someone to take him, you feel like a conman extreme. so there's that..sorry owners who took him.

Originally posted by opi00
http://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4671895

not really. If you keep them in the regional leagues they can be ok... but like if your team is shit, they play far worse than any kind of player in this game..probably because confidence will be low. But he was on a good team once and played ok. but no, I don't think so. Still fun to try! and to try to convince someone to take him, you feel like a conman extreme. so there's that..sorry owners who took him.

to be fair thats a shit dual threat build.

TBTH, no. Anyone that thinks you can re-create Michael Vick here is gonna feel nothing but a lot of angst. The game is designed so that you can make a GREAT passing QB... OR a GREAT Rushing QB... but trying to make both will result in it being good at neither.

Don't listen to the sheep

Originally posted by sniper24
I've heard generally that we must either choose a passer or a runner QB here on GLB. But has anyone ever actually tried building a dual threat QB successfully? What's the conventional wisdom on this - just that there aren't enough skill points to make him effective in both?


What would the build look like? Scrambler QB

Atty 1 - Speed
Atty 2 - Throwing
Atty 3 - Agility
Atty 4 - Vision
Atty 5 - Strength
Atty 6 - Vision


Would a player like this ever be elite at the higher tier leagues?



....but that is terrible build.

START WITH YOUR MAJORS
agility is important for a runner and a passer so best bet is to start there
definitely not with speed in any event

Originally posted by ProfessionalKop
to be fair thats a shit dual threat build.

stunningly so

Originally posted by darncat
stunningly so

So what about just a normal scrambling QB? Should a scrambling QB used only for rushing start with agility and cap it before even thinking about putting skill points into speed? Should speed be trained only early on?

Originally posted by sniper24
So what about just a normal scrambling QB? Should a scrambling QB used only for rushing start with agility and cap it before even thinking about putting skill points into speed? Should speed be trained only early on?

Scrambling is the wrong word. There is no scrambling in GLB. It never got coded in. The QB has 2 distinct modes.

#1 There is traditional passing mode. Drop back to pass and look for targets. If the QB is moving during this phase he takes a huge hit to pass accuracy. There is no "climbing the pocket". You want slow speed, low agility on a passer so that they can't move.

#2 There is running mode. The QB will pull the ball down and attempt to run. The problems with this are: a: the system is broken -- there's no way to control when the QB will do this, or which direction he moves (most of the time it's be directly into the closest defender instead of away from them). b: When the QB does do it, He cannot go back into passing mode. Once he's running that's it. There is no "keeping the play alive" So there will never be any true "scrambling".

There are pQBs (passing) and rQBs (running). rQBs are built like elusive HBs and do designed QB run plays, and maybe throw the occasional screen pass behind the LoS.

Forget scrambling as in 95% of the greatest pass plays in NFL history (THE Catch, Helmet Catch, basically every Aaron Rodgers throw, Minnesota Miracle, etc.). It doesn't exist in GLB.

Originally posted by darncat
Don't listen to the sheep

Yeah... the top QB every season is always a 'dual threat' QB and they dominate World League and the HOF.

WL championship dual threat QB says otherwise: http://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4656937

Can it work? Yes, but it takes the right OC.