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Originally posted by gbororats
but you can also clip the shit out of the defender running behind the guy, so you technically can leg sweep in GLB, but dots dont have legs, or fronts for that matter.

sweep the dot

Originally posted by gbororats
but you can also clip the shit out of the defender running behind the guy, so you technically can leg sweep in GLB, but dots dont have legs, or fronts for that matter.

My dots equipment say otherwise!

Here's a thought to all this though. I think, if anything like this was to be implemented, then it would require a vision check from the tackling dot in question. Why? Because I watched Barry Sanders cause many a defender to 'dive for air' when attempting to tackle him... but most of those guys weren't WATCHING Barry's hips (hips don't lie... ask any coach). Instead they got 'fooled' ( juked ) and end up diving to tackle the place where Barry use to be. To completely make Diving tackles dependent on a 'slider' would negate the effectiveness of 'juke' and 'spin' and all those other things a runner does to CAUSE the miss in the first place. So a slider could be a part of the equation... but must still allow a dot to be 'faked' by the runner otherwise it would make a holy mess of the game. IMO. I do think WAY too many dots simply 'dive' to tackle because it IS a part of the game. Especially on ST's. WAY too many 'diving attempts' as opposed to good quality squaring of the shoulders and making the tackle... and I believe it's because the game CAUSES diving to be more than it should.

I believe what the original poster is not factoring in is Stamina. Just because your prospective tackler appears to be faster, doesn't mean he will catch him. I'm willing to bet 98% of all Returners have higher Stamina than the players on the field with them. Your prospective tackler dives as a last resort, just before his lack of Stamina makes him slow down. There are plenty of examples of Returners appearing to be getting caught from behind and then the chasing tackler slows down and doesn't make the tackle. The reason said tackler in this example just follows the Returner into the endzone and doesn't dive for the tackle is because they lost the Diving Tackle roll.

Originally posted by Guppy, Inc
ok, lets start off with that I know there are no more changes. but am I the only one that wishes that players had a diving tackle slider that ranged from as soon as possible to only if runner is getting away? i get so tired of watching missed diving tackles on ST by players that are faster that the returner.

I don't know what all the factors are that limit how far a diving tackle can be made or against how fast vs. slow a dot may be, but I've seen a DT tackle a WR 8 yards down field.

Originally posted by DavyJonesLocker
How exactly did you come up with 2 yards in your scenario?

Originally posted by Seric
Probably just threw out a random number.

I've been hating this for 10 years...lol. you can generally tell when a player is making up ground, so if a player makes up 7 yards in the last 10, it's not hard to assume that he is the much faster dot because closing speed deactivates within 5. I picked 2 in this case because that seems to be when diving tackles frequently happen.

Originally posted by DavyJonesLocker
I believe what the original poster is not factoring in is Stamina. Just because your prospective tackler appears to be faster, doesn't mean he will catch him. I'm willing to bet 98% of all Returners have higher Stamina than the players on the field with them. Your prospective tackler dives as a last resort, just before his lack of Stamina makes him slow down. There are plenty of examples of Returners appearing to be getting caught from behind and then the chasing tackler slows down and doesn't make the tackle. The reason said tackler in this example just follows the Returner into the endzone and doesn't dive for the tackle is because they lost the Diving Tackle roll.

i would doubt that very much. most of the STOPs that I recommend to top teams have 60+ in stamina, plus STOPs get distance runner which isn't available to returners. I've had STOPs with over 170 in speed plus all the good speed VAs who consistently would miss diving tackles, that they never should have been attempting. i'm only talking about when to ATTEMPT a diving tackle, not the success rate of figuring out whether a tackle is made or missed. as it is now, it appears to be that at 2 yards, the defender dives. I've been tempted to make a stop with the bare minimum in jumping to see if it has an effect, but i've kinda lost the interest to experiment any more.

Originally posted by Dr. E
I don't know what all the factors are that limit how far a diving tackle can be made or against how fast vs. slow a dot may be, but I've seen a DT tackle a WR 8 yards down field.

I hate when crap like that happens. I know it's just a video glitch but it drives me crazy when i see no one near the returner and yet he gets tackled and I have to figure out which dot actually made the tackle.. I think the worst i've seen is only 5 or 6 yards.

Originally posted by gbororats
but you can also clip the shit out of the defender running behind the guy, so you technically can leg sweep in GLB, but dots dont have legs, or fronts for that matter.

sweep the leg

sometimes in madden 2017 my power back would do this spinning leg sweep to roundhouse kick
when i tried to spin while doing a stiff arm. it was some kind of glitch but it looked awesome ;P

crane kick

Originally posted by darncat
what planet do you live on? Not one with gravity, apparently...

You clearly don't watch football a lot if you think you need to leave the ground to tackle someone from behind in every situation.

Originally posted by darncat
Here is one play I can remember where a guy gets caught from behind as much as a guy can
get caught from behind by- completely overtook him (and I never thought Watson was all that fast),
yet still its a diving tackle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsZCTzYNBQE

LOLWHAT? Watson's feet NEVER left the ground (maybe one was up due to running) until AFTER the tackle was made. You may need to get your eyes checked there buddy. Thanks for proving my point. You don't have to leave your feet in all situations to tackle someone from behind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp17ftszrfE (multiple examples of chasing down to tackle)

Second one is yet another example where the tackler didn't have to jump or dive.

LMAO....I just replied to a text here.

Originally posted by Seric
LOLWHAT? Watson's feet NEVER left the ground (maybe one was up due to running) until AFTER the tackle was made. You may need to get your eyes checked there buddy. Thanks for proving my point. You don't have to leave your feet in all situations to tackle someone from behind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp17ftszrfE (multiple examples of chasing down to tackle)

Second one is yet another example where the tackler didn't have to jump or dive.

Are you seriously going to show that example (which ive seen a million times and almost posted to prove that you are wrong) to support your incorrect assertion? Every one of those tackles IS A DIVING TACKLE except for the Julio Jones tackle WHICH LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE THE NON DIVING CHASEDOWNS WHICH HAPPEN IN GLB ALL THE TIME. You just proved your argument moot and its fairly apparent you don't like giving up long scores, but everyone plays by the same engine.



there are better examples i can find, but we've all seen them already- this is more or ess like the Julio Jones clip in the video:
http://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2918573&pbp_id=1526347

Originally posted by DavyJonesLocker
I believe what the original poster is not factoring in is Stamina. Just because your prospective tackler appears to be faster, doesn't mean he will catch him. I'm willing to bet 98% of all Returners have higher Stamina than the players on the field with them. Your prospective tackler dives as a last resort, just before his lack of Stamina makes him slow down. There are plenty of examples of Returners appearing to be getting caught from behind and then the chasing tackler slows down and doesn't make the tackle. The reason said tackler in this example just follows the Returner into the endzone and doesn't dive for the tackle is because they lost the Diving Tackle roll.

http://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2920162&pbp_id=119106

Here is an example of that which happens (less frequently now) often with my QB.
She gets caught from behind, and the guy tries to tackle her (successfully or not)
without diving; had he had a longer run he probably would have needed to dive.
ironically the guy who catches her and gets in from ends up making a diving tackle,
which i think supports another post here that many of the tackles in GLB are diving,
whether necessary they seemed of not. I think you can see this echoed in RL-
for example most tackles in the NFL are diving tackles... its just human nature
to throw your body into a tackle

in any event, the replay shows a chase down tack;e certainly can be made if the defender
can over take him with enough BREATH (the play-by-play extension of stamina) to do so without diving,
but common sense and experience will inform you its not going to happen often.
If you are looking for non diving chasedown, they are more likely to happen when the player has caught up
and completely stopped the ball carriers momentum, like Jones does in the video above,
whcih i don't think i need to provide evidence that this happens ofthen in GLB, as we've all seen it