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Skinny Lister
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Basically I've spent some time doing some light-hearted spamming, which I'm sure some of you... if not all of you I'm not doing very well... have noticed.

I don't mean to be annoying, even though I'm more than sure I have been.

But there are a few things I've noticed that I want to point out.

1) There are a lot of multis being made and used right now, in blatant and obvious ways. I mean there are also some quite visible signs of people using other peoples accounts as well.

Is there anyone out there that cares anymore?
Is there some reason not to create 55 multis to make a team (besides that its annoying to manage) anymore? Or have we evolved past that?

2) A lot of people are under the impression that they have to keep the flex to boost their long-term players laying around doing nothing the entire time they are inching their way through their long career...

False. There is plenty of demand for no/no dots in peewee... where you can create a dot, build it to succeed in its first season and retire it and receive a full refund before its even time to boost your long-term dot.

There could be no/no rookie and peewee teams filled to the brim if you guys would chalk up a bit of effort to roll out some free dots.

The desire to coach and run teams is out there... people just aren't wanting to make dots accessible... we should knock this wall down.

3) There are actually a lot more active players than this desolate forum leads us to believe.

My guess is that plenty of them read these forums as well, or at least check them to see them empty (particularly league forums)

Its on the people active in the forum to post stuff worth reading, and that inspires usual closet-case forum readers to actually post...

Where are the GG threads? The Weekly rankings? The tournaments...

Some of us just need to kick it into gear and milk a few more good seasons out of this bitch we all put years of our lives into.
 
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Kurt Davey
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All I see is a guy complaining that has no dots.
 
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Originally posted by Kurt Davey
All I see is a guy complaining that has no dots.


 
John Gray
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Originally posted by Kurt Davey
All I see is a guy complaining that has no dots.


He'll have them on his multi's, lol.

Joking aside, he has a point, the players make the game. One person making an effort in the forums can still make a real difference to the enjoyment of the game,
 
Skinny Lister
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Originally posted by Kurt Davey
All I see is a guy complaining that has no dots.


The last time I played this game I was living off of less than a few hundred dollars a month outside of bills. I never could afford flex, but I spent hours and hours ranting and raving on the forum to make peewee a bit more interesting... and trust me I did. For better or worse.

Coaching and recruiting are as important as buying flex, so I have done more than enough for this game over the years.

I could easily afford to buy flex right now, and I would, and probably will, maybe even before this season... but I am trying my best to make this a place worth investing my money as well as my time in.

I think that it still has a few good seasons left in it, and that is why I'm spending my time, and yes probably even my money to milk this game I've loved for years.


And please don't mistake my tone for complaining, I mean to only point out how easy it is to fix, and am trying to lead by example... not with a simple crybaby post.
Edited by Skinny Lister on Mar 6, 2016 12:24:26
 
Kurt Davey
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Originally posted by Skinny Lister

There could be no/no rookie and peewee teams filled to the brim if you guys would chalk up a bit of effort to roll out some free dots.

The desire to coach and run teams is out there... people just aren't wanting to make dots accessible... we should knock this wall down.



So you want GLB Management to roll out even more FREE DOTS for the non-paying customer to use.
Sounds like a good business plan to me.

What do you mean by this??? "people just aren't wanting to make dots accessible"
Who's dots???? If you're talking about agents like myself who spend or have spent money on this game to just make extra dots so that you can use them to learn how to run a team or coordinate, It's likely not to happen. If I'm going to use my flex it's likely for the long haul, to get a player to Plateau and then decline. I, myself see nothing worthwhile in Peewee or No boosting leagues.

As for the desire to coach and run teams....I'd say spend some money... it doesn't have to be a lot, build some dots, join some teams, meet more agents. There are experienced agents, owners and coordinators that are willing to help people learn how to run and coordinate offenses and defenses.
 
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I was going to say something but then noticed leagues only 12 teams deep
 
Skinny Lister
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Originally posted by Kurt Davey
So you want GLB Management to roll out even more FREE DOTS for the non-paying customer to use.
Sounds like a good business plan to me.

What do you mean by this??? "people just aren't wanting to make dots accessible"
Who's dots???? If you're talking about agents like myself who spend or have spent money on this game to just make extra dots so that you can use them to learn how to run a team or coordinate, It's likely not to happen. If I'm going to use my flex it's likely for the long haul, to get a player to Plateau and then decline. I, myself see nothing worthwhile in Peewee or No boosting leagues.

As for the desire to coach and run teams....I'd say spend some money... it doesn't have to be a lot, build some dots, join some teams, meet more agents. There are experienced agents, owners and coordinators that are willing to help people learn how to run and coordinate offenses and defenses.


You are misinterpreting everything I'm saying, let me take this to mathematics for a second:

300 Flex Positions
Total Cost: 10,400 FP
Creation: 300 FP
Custom EQ: 900 FP
3X Boost: 900 FP
First Season Total: 2100 FP
Remaining FP: 8,300 FP

200 Flex Positions
Total Cost: 7,300 FP
Creation: 200 FP
Custom EQ: 900 FP
3 x Boost: 600 FP
First Season Total: 1700 FP
Remaining FP: 5600 FP

100 Flex Positions
Total Cost: 4,200 FP
Creation: 100 FP
Custom EQ: 900 FP
3 x Boost: 300 FP
First Season Total: 1300 FP
Remaining FP: 2900 FP

Now this "Remaining FP" is flex that you must have in order to do the climb to the highest levels.
Seeing as most people buy this up front, because of the cheaper price... this flex for the most part is just sitting there.

Now let me run another set of numbers by you:

55 Players on a peewee team, lets say a roster averages out at 250 flex per player, even though its probably much less than that.

That means to build an entire peewee team with no/no (IM NOT TELLING ANYONE NOT TO BOOST THEIR DOTS, I'm only saying that people HAVE used no/no dots to compete in peewee leagues for YEARS, and that it is still a fun experience to play, it isn't like not boosting in regular higher level leagues, or even in rookie, where you'll be 6 levels down)

IT WOULD COST 13,750 FP

At the end of the season (which occurs before you would be boosting your long-term dots) you retire ALL of these players.

You have remaining: 13,750 FP

If you are building a WR and a FB, you can run a peewee team this season... for free, and I know some people don't WANT to run 55 players, but the math is just there to show you that every rookie dot being created represents almost an entire peewee team worth of flex...

I'm asking that a few dots get made... so that peewee can fill up at least silver this season, and I'm going to do my best to liven up the experience in the forums, and make an effort to have a good time again.

HOW is that offensive to anyone?

And on the notion that you somehow read this as my desire to run a team ? I am going to coach teams because people want me to coach their teams because I've been coordinating in peewee for years...

I don't need your's or anyone else's help for myself.

I'm recruiting for every team in peewee, and for every empty team in peewee....
 
Skinny Lister
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Originally posted by Kurt Davey

What do you mean by this??? "people just aren't wanting to make dots accessible"


What I'm saying is, whether you believe it or not, there are a lot of people out there right now who may or may not be reading this that are willing to, or apparently are easily convinced to, make dots that aren't sitting in recruiting forums.

I know this not based off assumption, but because I have a long list of agents who I selected at random to PM who have agreed and ARE already making dots that they otherwise would have left unmade... and agents who I've known for years that I've shaken back alive, all be it who knows for how long, but its worth it even if its only for one good season.

Originally posted by Team Nucleus
I was going to say something but then noticed leagues only 12 teams deep


The off season just started... and its doing better than it did last season already. It can only get better from here.
 
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Originally posted by Skinny Lister
You are misinterpreting everything I'm saying, let me take this to mathematics for a second:

300 Flex Positions
Total Cost: 10,400 FP
Creation: 300 FP
Custom EQ: 900 FP
3X Boost: 900 FP
First Season Total: 2100 FP
Remaining FP: 8,300 FP

200 Flex Positions
Total Cost: 7,300 FP
Creation: 200 FP
Custom EQ: 900 FP
3 x Boost: 600 FP
First Season Total: 1700 FP
Remaining FP: 5600 FP

100 Flex Positions
Total Cost: 4,200 FP
Creation: 100 FP
Custom EQ: 900 FP
3 x Boost: 300 FP
First Season Total: 1300 FP
Remaining FP: 2900 FP

Now this "Remaining FP" is flex that you must have in order to do the climb to the highest levels.
Seeing as most people buy this up front, because of the cheaper price... this flex for the most part is just sitting there.

Now let me run another set of numbers by you:

55 Players on a peewee team, lets say a roster averages out at 250 flex per player, even though its probably much less than that.

That means to build an entire peewee team with no/no (IM NOT TELLING ANYONE NOT TO BOOST THEIR DOTS, I'm only saying that people HAVE used no/no dots to compete in peewee leagues for YEARS, and that it is still a fun experience to play, it isn't like not boosting in regular higher level leagues, or even in rookie, where you'll be 6 levels down)

IT WOULD COST 13,750 FP

At the end of the season (which occurs before you would be boosting your long-term dots) you retire ALL of these players.

You have remaining: 13,750 FP

If you are building a WR and a FB, you can run a peewee team this season... for free, and I know some people don't WANT to run 55 players, but the math is just there to show you that every rookie dot being created represents almost an entire peewee team worth of flex...

I'm asking that a few dots get made... so that peewee can fill up at least silver this season, and I'm going to do my best to liven up the experience in the forums, and make an effort to have a good time again.

HOW is that offensive to anyone?

And on the notion that you somehow read this as my desire to run a team ? I am going to coach teams because people want me to coach their teams because I've been coordinating in peewee for years...

I don't need your's or anyone else's help for myself.

I'm recruiting for every team in peewee, and for every empty team in peewee....


I understand what you are saying here but pee wee is a different part of the game, a part that agents are not interested in like other agents, myself included.

To tell you I would love to see instant dots where I could skip the lower leagues all together or at least until the dots hit level 40 or 50 then go from there, I would even pay the same price for the dot as if I started from scratch.

I am not saying that pee wee or lower is a bad thing, it is just something I am not interested in. Some agents probably play nothing but pee wee and that's their bag.

Oh by the way when I do make dots I don't buy all the flex I need for it, anymore I try to work it in so as I retire players it gives me the flex for my younger dots. Only buy flex out of necessity when I have to which is I believe I bought it one time this past black friday spending about 60 bucks since Nov 2011. It is the way Bort has the game set up, spent a lot at first now living off retirement flexies as so many other agents are doing.
Edited by Bluesman on Mar 6, 2016 15:01:30
 
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I'm not asking anyone who has absolutely no interest in building peewee dots to do anything.

Just seeking after people who wouldn't mind spending the bit of effort it takes to use available flex to make some dots that they can see them play a few games and populate my favorite place in all of the internet... GLB Peewee.
 
Kurt Davey
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Good Luck finding enough dots to fill up those leagues. Hell there's not enough dots to fill most of the other leagues as is... other than the WL.

What I think you're attempting to do in this thread is to get the FLEX BUYING user base to help fill up Pee Wee so that the NON FLEX BUYING user base can have a full competitive league or two.
 
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WHOOPS.
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Mike Martz
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If only bort hired you several seasons ago
 
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