Warrior General Games

Five Wides (NAPL): http://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/team.pl?team_id=1187
Forsyth County War Dawgs (SLAP): http://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/team.pl?team_id=1367

Let me start off by saying I am not naive enough to expect change. I just find it disappointing at best, and completely retarded at worst. I had multiple full human regional pro teams request to swap with five wides via support. However support refuses to swap teams unless BOTH owners PM support for the swap, stating the team there earned that spot.

If an owner gives 0 shits about his team and makes no effort to fill it, he should not have any rights as a team owner. Much less the right to make a league less fun for 11 other teams who have to have lolCPU stats. Those 0cares toxic owners are not going to go out of their way to PM support before day41 movement and get moved. Those 0cares toxic owners are not going to go out of their way to facilitate team swaps.

GLB at the very least should be willing to let teams take their spot upon request (treat it like the CPU team it is), rather than letting people grief their paying and playing customers.

Preferably when sorting happens, GLB should add to the automatic sorting that any team with <10 human players under contract gets moved to the lowest league of that age group automatically. If a team is completely overhauling and bringing in 45+ dots they can request support to manually stay in their current deserved league. However bringing in 45+ dots is something no one does, so leaving the rare rare exception makes sense.

Anyhow my rant is over. It's just unreal that I get a response from support that they will not move a 100% cpu team (with human ownership) on day 48 out of a natty pro league unless that owner PM's support with their express consent for a swap.

Bringing in 45+ dots probably falls under the prohibitions against gaming the system anyway

I hope that rant made you feel better

Originally posted by Bane
I hope that rant made you feel better

It probably didn't

TBPH, he's 100% correct. Makes no sense to let a CPU team stay in a higher league. This mode of operation doesn't make a whole lot of sense and generally just pisses off the actual human teams in a Pro league - well unless they're counting in freebie wins I guess.

With the leagues being restructured to, what, 12 teams in each(?) you'd figure it'd be easier and beneficial to the admins to make the highest leagues (WL is a joke, always has been and should have been a tournament of top Pro teams from the outset anyway, but spilt milk is already spilt) be the MOST competitive as possible. Nope, admins still allow BS CPU (human owned or not) hang out there.

Par for the course. Yay team! And folks wonder why it's been bleeding out for so long...and defend this crap.



FFS!

Originally posted by Black Peter
TBPH, he's 100% correct. Makes no sense to let a CPU team stay in a higher league. This mode of operation doesn't make a whole lot of sense and generally just pisses off the actual human teams in a Pro league - well unless they're counting in freebie wins I guess.

With the leagues being restructured to, what, 12 teams in each(?) you'd figure it'd be easier and beneficial to the admins to make the highest leagues (WL is a joke, always has been and should have been a tournament of top Pro teams from the outset anyway, but spilt milk is already spilt) be the MOST competitive as possible. Nope, admins still allow BS CPU (human owned or not) hang out there.

Par for the course. Yay team! And folks wonder why it's been bleeding out for so long...and defend this crap.



FFS!

Have you ever owned or coordinated a team in WL?

Originally posted by ProfessionalKop
Have you ever owned or coordinated a team in WL?

What's that matter? Answers: No, yes.

Again, what's that matter? Not a bit.

Come back when you have something to actually say.

WL was one of the worst splintering moves GLB ever made. A Pro tournament would have made things much better/more stable than to create some elitist BS league that only served to fracture the user base even more than before. Just IMO of course.

Again, what exactly is your point? Wise is 100% correct in his post. You want to focus on something I said which sticks in your craw? You own a WL team now and think it's an accomplishment or something? Pat on the back worthy? Really?

Fun!

if things were done correctly then someone would be spending the time to make sure all leagues can be as competitive if possible....teams should not have been permitted to be owned by people who have a majority of cpu players on them...cpu players were meant to be a stop gap for when you needed a couple here or there.....nobody has ever cared enough to make sure all the leagues were set without relying on the userbase...its the little things that show the lack of detail that are frustrating to me as to why users left glb...

Originally posted by Moretti
if things were done correctly then someone would be spending the time to make sure all leagues can be as competitive if possible

Promotion and demotion rules exist for a reason. Surely you can see how disastrous and impractical it would be for admins to go through and place every team based on how competitive we think they will be next season?

Originally posted by Moretti
if things were done correctly then someone would be spending the time to make sure all leagues can be as competitive if possible....





Originally posted by Corndog
Promotion and demotion rules exist for a reason. Surely you can see how disastrous and impractical it would be for admins to go through and place every team based on how competitive we think they will be next season?

I could understand not going thru every league but there was a restructure of the leagues to make the pros more competitive as there was not enough teams to fill them. It would not take much to look at the pro leagues at least to see if there are any gutted teams in there.
As Wise even had teams willing to come up into the pros that would replace the gutted teams but he got shot down because both owners didn't send in a ticket to support.

Originally posted by Bluesman
I could understand not going thru every league but there was a restructure of the leagues to make the pros more competitive as there was not enough teams to fill them. It would not take much to look at the pro leagues at least to see if there are any gutted teams in there.
As Wise even had teams willing to come up into the pros that would replace the gutted teams but he got shot down because both owners didn't send in a ticket to support.

But why should those owners not be allowed to stay in their league this season? The promotion and demotion rules say that they should be in their current leagues. They paid to renew their teams. Maybe they have future plans, they definitely didn't ask to be demoted or replaced.

Moving people's teams that they paid for, while disregarding the rules and systems in place, based on how competitive we think they will be seems like a pretty slippery slope.

Originally posted by Corndog
But why should those owners not be allowed to stay in their league this season? The promotion and demotion rules say that they should be in their current leagues. They paid to renew their teams. Maybe they have future plans.

Moving people's teams that they paid for, while disregarding the rules and systems in place, based on how competitive we think they will be seems like a pretty slippery slope.

Your reaction makes me laugh. The team is gutted, if they have future plans it will be in the lower leagues as they will not win in pros with 40 cpu dots.

Anyways I have to go to work you all enjoy

Yeah, well, we're still working on the crystal ball technology.

Hopefully it will be completed soon. Maybe we can roll it out with our mind reading algorithm.

Originally posted by Corndog
But why should those owners not be allowed to stay in their league this season? The promotion and demotion rules say that they should be in their current leagues. They paid to renew their teams. Maybe they have future plans, they definitely didn't ask to be demoted or replaced.

Moving people's teams that they paid for, while disregarding the rules and systems in place, based on how competitive we think they will be seems like a pretty slippery slope.

true. My team was in regional pro for 17 seasons. I use an old offense & defense AI and full roster with CPU players. I have plans indeed....

I know national Pro is different and a CPU team ruins the joy for the other teams but Admin is right. Rules are there for a reason and owners try to bend them and use them to our will.

Originally posted by Black Peter
What's that matter? Answers: No, yes.

Again, what's that matter? Not a bit.

Come back when you have something to actually say.

WL was one of the worst splintering moves GLB ever made. A Pro tournament would have made things much better/more stable than to create some elitist BS league that only served to fracture the user base even more than before. Just IMO of course.

Again, what exactly is your point? Wise is 100% correct in his post. You want to focus on something I said which sticks in your craw? You own a WL team now and think it's an accomplishment or something? Pat on the back worthy? Really?

Fun!



I was just seeing if you were complaining about something you've never done anything in. Why would I want to play shitty pro teams every week when I can play the best teams every season?

I don't coordinate but I don't pay for my team every season to watch them beat up on bad teams. I pay and everyone who had a dot on my team has paid to watch their dots compete against good coordinators and dots. I'm not wasting my flex playing teams that can't even win Reg pro gold.