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RyanCane26
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Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN
If you're gonna call out an OC for using screens it should be every OC in WL before me. I throw less screens on average than any WL OC, as they are literally 0% a part of my normal gameplans. Feel free to check through all of my HB's plays to prove my point. And next time don't leave screens open while over-committing to pressure and picks, then complain like a bitch when u lose.... Just a thought?

Congrats on the WL title 3 years ago tho, glad to see you're still milking it for props.

While I wasn't a fan of your gameplan it was clearly effective and it's hard to "bitch" about someone being conservative when we run as much as I do. I didn't even plan on bringing it up until you decided to brag about a first round playoff win as if it were a WL title game 3 years ago, which I brought up because you asked "anyone else" not because I need validation from you, or anyone else.
Edited by RyanCane26 on Jan 29, 2015 20:00:05
 
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"Is that face cuz Hedgehogs beat OPT in the playoffs or cuz you've oc'd a WL title team?" = me "braggng like it's a WL title game from 3 years ago?" Glad to see you aren't insane bro.
 
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Btw just for lolfacts, through 18 WL regular season + playoff games this season, the Hedgehogs have 694 pass plays and we threw 45 screens. This also means we only had 27 screens in the other 17 games combined (which comes out to 1.6 screens/game).

To the contrary, through 17 WL regular season + playoff games, OPT (which runs 66.3% of the time like a bunch of pussies btw), had 383 pass plays and 47 screens.

So Hedgehogs had screens on 6.5% of our pass plays.
OPT had screens on 12.3% of your pass plays.

Also in the Hedgehogs must-win week 16 game, and must-win round 2 playoff game, we had a combined 4 screens.

Just food for thought. Might want to fact check next time before you open your keyboard to the world RC.
 
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Here's a fact; if you take the next two highest teams from our conference in round 1's screens they don't equal the Hedgehogs.

And though I appreciate your analytics on a regular season where most teams don't even open their AIs I implore you to look at the sole game we're discussing where you threw screens on 18 of 37 attempts (49%).

Not to mention needing an OPT win in w16 to even sniff the playoffs, lol.
 
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I've already stated it was an effective gameplan so no need to get defensive (and throw insults at conservative gameplans when thats what got you out of the first round) and pull up stats from the games that don't matter. And at the end of the day we both weren't close to the WL title game so it really matters even less.
 
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Having been to 8 ships I can see where you are going wrong wise. Too busy worrying about what other people will think of your gameplans.
 
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Originally posted by RyanCane26
Here's a fact; if you take the next two highest teams from our conference in round 1's screens they don't equal the Hedgehogs.

And though I appreciate your analytics on a regular season where most teams don't even open their AIs I implore you to look at the sole game we're discussing where you threw screens on 18 of 37 attempts (49%).

Not to mention needing an OPT win in w16 to even sniff the playoffs, lol.


I'm very happy with the gameplan (though props goes to our D as well!!!). Your team was #2 in hurries, #2 in sacks, and #1 in INTs. That is countered by throwing screens and since you sell out to get pressure and get picks. I just find it laughable that you are trying to call me out for my team beating your, as if 16 screens is somehow more conservative than being a HEAVY run team all season long, and throwing MORE screens with less than half the pass attempts.

I'd rather win a playoff game and get "called out" for having 16 screens by someone with a baseless illogical argument, than lose the game while slinging the rock deep like a fucking idiot. imo. fwiw.

Btw if you think you pointing out we needed a week 16 win (which we got vs the #3 seed fyi) to make the playoffs makes me feel bad, you're bat shit insane. If anything, you losing as the #1 seed to the #8 seed just proves how much nex and myself out-gameplanned you guys in rd 1.
 
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Originally posted by RyanCane26
And at the end of the day we both weren't close to the WL title game so it really matters even less.


I agree completely. Just remember the Hedgehogs we closer though.
 
WiSeIVIaN
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Originally posted by bhall43
Having been to 8 ships I can see where you are going wrong wise. Too busy worrying about what other people will think of your gameplans.


Lol I appreciate the advice B. Just curious what your record is in those 8 championships (I literally have no idea and am legit curious). One could make a strong argument that you are the best OC in GLB history, so my hat is off to you!
 
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Naw 3-5. Definitely not the best OC. ghuff and hcreek pwn me and well Valhalla.
 
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Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN
Btw if you think you pointing out we needed a week 16 win (which we got vs the #3 seed fyi) to make the playoffs makes me feel bad, you're bat shit insane. If anything, you losing as the #1 seed to the #8 seed just proves how much nex and myself out-gameplanned you guys in rd 1.


I was pointing out how you needed OPT to beat whoever it was in w16 for you to make playoffs, not that you needed to win. Nice reading comprehension. Also no denying Nex is tremendous and has had my number for quite a while now.

Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN

I'd rather win a playoff game and get "called out" for having 16 screens by someone with a baseless illogical argument, than lose the game while slinging the rock deep like a fucking idiot. imo. fwiw.


No doubt. And it was 18 screens*.

 
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Originally posted by RyanCane26
I was pointing out how you needed OPT to beat whoever it was in w16 for you to make playoffs, not that you needed to win.


So I'm supposed to have a loss on my teams regular season record to the #1 seed, but be thankful that a worse team also lost to that team? Just cuz 1 team played you week 16 instead of week 3 doesn't really mean anything.
 
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so much talk bout what now is a meaningless game
 
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Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN
I throw less screens on average than any WL OC, as they are literally 0% a part of my normal gameplans.


This is not true... there was at least one team that threw less screens... 34 out of 525 passes, for .0647%

But the argument could be made that their OC isn't really WL... more Regional Pro.


Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN
Btw just for lolfacts, through 18 WL regular season + playoff games this season, the Hedgehogs have 694 pass plays and we threw 45 screens. This also means we only had 27 screens in the other 17 games combined (which comes out to 1.6 screens/game).

So Hedgehogs had screens on 6.5% of our pass plays. <---- THIS IS TRUE, OR REALLY CLOSE IT'S ACTUALLY .0648
OPT had screens on 12.3% of your pass plays.



Edited by Redass Ranch on Jan 30, 2015 16:38:55
 
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