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Originally posted by Loco Moco
-MITH- is Bill Belichick.

Now you know.

i thought Piemaster was Belicheck.

http://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=626072

intercepted deflated balls




pats might get a fine but prolly nuthin

Did they over inflate the colts balls causing them to only score 7.. blount ran for 3 TDs

This is America - the land of pushing the envelope - and if you're not on the cutting edge, you're left behind. Competition is king - don't be a pussy.

A pound or two of air pressure in the ball may or may not make a difference in throwing or catching, idk, but it certainly doesn't win one on one match ups, block or tackle anyone, or control or the line of scrimmage, so what's the beef? I'm NOT a Pats fan, but I do respect their system, and if they are ahead of every other team in the way they prepare - "cheating" or not - then so be it.

Originally posted by AlBarsch
This is America - the land of pushing the envelope - and if you're not on the cutting edge, you're left behind. Competition is king - don't be a pussy.

A pound or two of air pressure in the ball may or may not make a difference in throwing or catching, idk, but it certainly doesn't win one on one match ups, block or tackle anyone, or control or the line of scrimmage, so what's the beef? I'm NOT a Pats fan, but I do respect their system, and if they are ahead of every other team in the way they prepare - "cheating" or not - then so be it.

I remember in the 70s there was a hockey coach who made the opponents team bench a little smaller so they don't feel great on the bench, their lights in their locker room were a bit darker so they feel sleepy and things like that

it doesnt win the game but the league had to set rules because it gave little advantage and some people used that

Was on the news tonight that the balls were found to be under-inflated. I really don't get this at all. WHY? Why on earth even TRY to cheat to win? I absolutely HATE that Bilichick is tied, yet again, to another cheating scandal. The stupid f*ck is supposed to be ex-Navy for crying out loud. If he's NOT guilty then why doesn't he get f*kin pissed at those around him that are screwing his sh*t all around. I sure as HELL wouldn't just sit there and say nothing. If he IS cheating, I could not hate a team and 'their system' any more than I do them. I use to be fairly apathetic about the Pats. Even felt sorry for them back in the 'loser' years. Now I hope they fine the holy crap out of them, take away ALL of their draft picks for the next 2 years, and threaten to asterisk their superbowl wins is they ever get caught cheating again. Enough if e-f*kin-nuff.

Originally posted by gbororats
except that the teams dont use the same balls... but still not sure how that would make a difference, maybe better grip for a wet day.

Better grip, easier to catch, less likely to fumble. But... also, harder to kick long FG's. The whole reason the rule was put in place was because, on long, FG's, Punts, and some kickoffs, OVER-inflated balls were finding their way onto the field to make them go farther. I think one time someone even tried to inflate one with helium.

Originally posted by AlBarsch
This is America - the land of pushing the envelope - and if you're not on the cutting edge, you're left behind. Competition is king - don't be a pussy.

A pound or two of air pressure in the ball may or may not make a difference in throwing or catching, idk, but it certainly doesn't win one on one match ups, block or tackle anyone, or control or the line of scrimmage, so what's the beef? I'm NOT a Pats fan, but I do respect their system, and if they are ahead of every other team in the way they prepare - "cheating" or not - then so be it.

I agree that, as long as it doesn't break the EXISTING rules, you SHOULD look for an edge. But cheating is simply wrong. Period. The rules are there to make sure the playing field is as level as it can be. And what makes this even MORE stupid than ANYTHING is that the Pats DID NOT NEED TO CHEAT to win. Their planing and preparation and execution was MORE than enough to beat the Colts. THEY DID NOT NEED TO CHEAT. And they still did. Nothing, in my mind, could be more stupid than this. Nothing. Not even Justin Beeber.

take away their draft picks, asterisk their SB win, suspend Belichick for a year and make Justin Bieber HC
that ought to fix 'em

Originally posted by gbororats
except that the teams dont use the same balls... but still not sure how that would make a difference, maybe better grip for a wet day.

What??? Call me Aussie, but the teams don't use the same balls????

i think their punishment should be making Brady get another Justin Beeber haircut and Belicheat has to wear another one of those Flashdance sweatshirts

edit: no wait, that would punishing the nation

Originally posted by Ezra
What??? Call me Aussie, but the teams don't use the same balls????
no, each team uses their own.

what concerns me is if the colts game was the only game that they did this on. as many stated, i don't think it would have made that much of a difference on this game, but there were several close ones during the season and even the baltimore game.

Meh. The Pats get their fair share of hate through a mixture of some of their obnoxious fans, Belichick, and also partly because of their success. But I suppose this doesn't get me riled up as much when you have Aaron Rodgers quoted on national TV that he has his footballs inflated beyond the rules. Nobody said a peep about that, so I'm not sure why this should be treated as some sort of bigger scandal.

If the most recent news is true about 11 of the 12 Patriot balls being underinflated by as much as they say, then I'd be really wondering if the refs ever enforce having legal footballs in games. You would definitely notice a difference. I'm willing to reserve judgement until the NFL releases its findings. Not that I have a lot of trust in NFL leadership.

Originally posted by Ezra
What??? Call me Aussie, but the teams don't use the same balls????

each team provides 12 balls they practiced with during the week and they are familiar with. They have to give them to the referees 2h15 before the game so the refs can take a look at them and make sure they arent deflated.

Colts noticed about the deflated ball when they intercepted Brady. Same happened in their regular season Adams had 2 picks and he noticed that too but I think he kept the balls for himself.

If only 1-2 balls are found deflated I mean maybe the weather played a role in that. But if 11 of the 12 balls are deflated, thats cheating because the rules requires a certain weight. They cleary didn't need this to win the game as they destroyed the Colts on every facet. But if you break the rule, there MUST be punishment

Originally posted by rjssob
I'm not mad, just saying you should post facts not fiction...Deflated balls, seriously heard it all now.

still think he is posting fiction?

I'm just posting facts don't be mad at me

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2334592-patriots-reportedly-investigated-by-nfl-for-using-deflated-footballs-vs-colts?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming-national3