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Originally posted by RayRay99
LHF's brag thread is about lolGLB, who is #1 in the All Time ST ranking based on the fact that all he did was stat whore in casual and reg pro for the majority of his career. Until this point, all he did was brag about YMX, who he previously said was the best ever because he got some gold trophies in WL with him, but never won ST MVP in WL. Because that is his only redeemable accomplishment, he continues to say that only trophies (except MVP obviously) in WL matter, and National Pro accomplishments mean nothing. Let's break down the accomplishments (Stats are from seasons in National Pro and WL only):

lolGLB - 9 MVPs (1 National Pro, 8 lower level)
32.3 KR Avg.
8% KR TD
27.1 PR Avg.
37.2% PR average
2 WL Seasons
2 National Pro Season
10 lower level seasons

YMX - 5 MVPs (1 Casual Pro, 4 lower level)
27.5% KR Avg.
3.6% KR TD
17.3 PR Avg.
5.4% PR TD
4 WL Season
1 National Pro Season
13 lower level seasons

Benjamin Linus - 9 MVPs (1 WL, 1 National Pro, 7 lower level)
32.1 KR Avg.
6.9% KR TD
29.7 PR Avg.
22.9% PR TD
1 WL Season
4 National Pro Season
14 lower level seasons

Toya Jones - 10 MVPs (7 National Pro, 3 lower level)
34.1 KR Avg.
10.2% KR TD
31.4 PR Avg.
27.9% PR TD
0 WL Season
9 National Pro Seasons
9 lower level seasons

Based on that, I rank them as:

1) Toya Jones
2) Benjamin Linus
3) lolGLB
4) YMX

Also, best to identify whether the MVPs came from elite or not in the lower levels, because those matter +++ over the others.

Originally posted by RayRay99
LHF's brag thread is about lolGLB, who is #1 in the All Time ST ranking based on the fact that all he did was stat whore in casual and reg pro for the majority of his career. Until this point, all he did was brag about YMX, who he previously said was the best ever because he got some gold trophies in WL with him, but never won ST MVP in WL. Because that is his only redeemable accomplishment, he continues to say that only trophies (except MVP obviously) in WL matter, and National Pro accomplishments mean nothing. Let's break down the accomplishments (Stats are from seasons in National Pro and WL only):

lolGLB - 9 MVPs (1 National Pro, 8 lower level)
32.3 KR Avg.
8% KR TD
27.1 PR Avg.
37.2% PR average
2 WL Seasons
2 National Pro Season
10 lower level seasons

YMX - 5 MVPs (1 Casual Pro, 4 lower level)
27.5% KR Avg.
3.6% KR TD
17.3 PR Avg.
5.4% PR TD
4 WL Season
1 National Pro Season
13 lower level seasons

Benjamin Linus - 9 MVPs (1 WL, 1 National Pro, 7 lower level)
32.1 KR Avg.
6.9% KR TD
29.7 PR Avg.
22.9% PR TD
1 WL Season
4 National Pro Season
14 lower level seasons

Toya Jones - 10 MVPs (7 National Pro, 3 lower level)
34.1 KR Avg.
10.2% KR TD
31.4 PR Avg.
27.9% PR TD
0 WL Season
9 National Pro Seasons
9 lower level seasons

Based on that, I rank them as:

1) Toya Jones
2) Benjamin Linus
3) lolGLB
4) YMX

Just like an aggie would, you are making a fool of yourself and don't even realize it. The fact that you are comparing stats earned in pro with those earned in WL is laughable. The point is still over your head.

But here's a good way to explain it. lolGLB spent seasons 37 and 39 in Pro and 38 and 40 in WL. Here are his stats over those four seasons:

37: 1564 KR yards, 41.2 average, 6 KR TD, 6831 PR yards, 32.1 average, 126 TDs
38: 1675.5 KR yards, 27.9 average, 2 KR TD (1st place), 894.5 PR yards, 18.6 average (1st place), 2 PR TDs (1st place)
39: 1433.5 KR yards, 35.8 average, 5 KR TD, 2930 PR yards, 25 average, 24 PR TDs
40: 2171.5 KR yards, 29.3 average, 3 TD (1st place), 498.5 PR yards, 15.1 average, 1 PR TD (2nd place)

That is the same dot with almost the exact same blocking set up in front of him. The difference between pro and WL? Huge. Why? Pro is total shit.

And here's the stats for linus for the seasons prior to, during, and after he went to WL:

27: 1756 KR yards, 30.8 average, 4 TDs, 3755 PR yards, 32.1 average, 39 PR TDs
28: 1790.5 KR yards, 25.9 average, 0 TDs, 765 PR yards, 21.9 average, 2 PR TDs
29: 2391.5 KR yards, 29.9 average, 3 TDs, 4247 PR yards, 31.9 average, 34 PR TDs

Again, a huge difference in numbers: 5 yards per KR, no KR TDs, 10 yards per PR, and cut his PRs by 95%. Why? Pro sucks. Toya's trophies are worthless joke trophies.

YMX did what he did in WL, not the joke that is pro. And the fact that he has the highest KR and PR average of any returner in WL playoffs as well as a 1 TD per WL playoff game average just proves that he is the best ever. He did it better than any other returner in the most important games at the highest level (and only level that matters) of the game. End of argument.

Originally posted by Time Trial
Also, best to identify whether the MVPs came from elite or not in the lower levels, because those matter +++ over the others.

Ben - 4 Elite Minor
lol - 2 Elite Minor
Toya - 0 Elite Minor
YMX - 0 Elite Minor

Originally posted by Longhornfan1024


YMX did what he did in WL, not the joke that is pro. And the fact that he has the highest KR and PR average of any returner in WL playoffs as well as a 1 TD per WL playoff game average just proves that he is the best ever. He did it better than any other returner in the most important games at the highest level (and only level that matters) of the game. End of argument.

What lolGLB does now in a weak, watered down EPL is not even the same ballpark as Toya playing in the seasons 21-29 in USAPL. It is a different generation.

YMX played 4 seasons in WL. He was never the best returner in his conference, thus no MVPs. Half of those seasons he had 1 return TD total in the regular season, and averaged 3 TDs total in 4 seasons. How does averaging 2 KR TDs and 1 PR TD per season make him the GOAT? Talking about arbitrary stats, your "playoff prowess" is based on 6 games in Season 26 and Season 29 where he did well. In Seasons 27 and 28 he played 4 playoffs games and had 1 TD total. Congrats on having 2 good playoff performances in WL. YMX didn't ever lead his team to a WL conference championship, never won WL MVP, and his stats at every other level are lacking the others.

By your definition, YMX is GLB's version of Ed Podolak, Vernon Perry, or Frank Reich: Guys who had memorable playoff performances, but in the grand scheme of things are an afterthought to the greats of the game.

Originally posted by Time Trial
Also, best to identify whether the MVPs came from elite or not in the lower levels, because those matter +++ over the others.

All I see is 1 WL season between 2 return dots, I'm sorry but you're not even in consideration. You guys can argue all day long but we all know the only consistent competition left in this game is in WL

Originally posted by lemdog
All I see is 1 WL season between 2 return dots, I'm sorry but you're not even in consideration. You guys can argue all day long but we all know the only consistent competition left in this game is in WL



Exactly.

Originally posted by RayRay99
What lolGLB does now in a weak, watered down EPL is not even the same ballpark as Toya playing in the seasons 21-29 in USAPL. It is a different generation.

YMX played 4 seasons in WL. He was never the best returner in his conference, thus no MVPs. Half of those seasons he had 1 return TD total in the regular season, and averaged 3 TDs total in 4 seasons. How does averaging 2 KR TDs and 1 PR TD per season make him the GOAT? Talking about arbitrary stats, your "playoff prowess" is based on 6 games in Season 26 and Season 29 where he did well. In Seasons 27 and 28 he played 4 playoffs games and had 1 TD total. Congrats on having 2 good playoff performances in WL. YMX didn't ever lead his team to a WL conference championship, never won WL MVP, and his stats at every other level are lacking the others.

By your definition, YMX is GLB's version of Ed Podolak, Vernon Perry, or Frank Reich: Guys who had memorable playoff performances, but in the grand scheme of things are an afterthought to the greats of the game.

Resorting to MVP talk just shows the weakness of your arguments when all of GLB fully accepts that the MVP calculations are completely fubared. I already showed above how return TDs in WL are very difficult to come by. YMX has the most 1st place trophies of any returner in WL history and has the best WL playoff KR average, PR average, and TD average of any returner in WL history.

Let's compare that to Toya.

Toya: 0 WL anything.

Whoever built Korb's returners was the best. I have no idea who it was, probably because people who have achieved anything else in this game don't brag about special teams.

Originally posted by jdbolick
Whoever built Korb's returners was the best. I have no idea who it was, probably because people who have achieved anything else in this game don't brag about special teams.

One of those returners was mine.

I think it is funny how some people get boners over their dot's stats and then defend their honor.

ITT: Hood circlejerk because LHF can't accept the truth.

Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
Resorting to MVP talk just shows the weakness of your arguments when all of GLB fully accepts that the MVP calculations are completely fubared. I already showed above how return TDs in WL are very difficult to come by. YMX has the most 1st place trophies of any returner in WL history and has the best WL playoff KR average, PR average, and TD average of any returner in WL history.


2 non-championship playoff seasons does not equate to GOAT status. Sorry. FYB scrub.

Originally posted by RayRay99
ITT: Hood circlejerk because LHF can't accept the truth.

0 WL anything.

Originally posted by RayRay99
2 non-championship playoff seasons does not equate to GOAT status. Sorry. FYB scrub.

0 WL anything.

No dot can claim to be GOAT anything with 0 KR yards, 0 average, 0 KR TDs, 0 PR yards, 0 average, 0 PR TDs as their WL stat line.

Originally posted by RayRay99
2 non-championship playoff seasons does not equate to GOAT status. Sorry. FYB scrub.

Toya has zero pro championships. You just destroyed any of your own arguments that Toya is GOAT if it takes a championship to claim that status.

But if you want to claim it requires a championship to be GOAT, here is Rerturning tha Ball:

http://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player_awards.pl?player_id=2494933

He is something like 3rd in WL individual gold trophies and has a WL title. I'm pretty sure #2 doesn't have a WL title. So I'm still the best.