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Jonezy
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Ran my WR through VPB. Not sure if its worth finishing if this is the end result. Wanted Jumping at 40 and Carrying at 70, but didn't squeeze it with vision at 68. Not sure how much the 43 str will play in to winning catch rolls also.


Player Build
Position: wr_power_receiver
Level: 79
Ht: 6' 0" Wt: 205

Attributes:
strength : 43.38
speed : 90 (+55) = 145
agility : 98.38
jumping : 22
stamina : 61
vision : 67.38
confidence : 40
blocking : 6
throwing : 8
catching : 90.38
carrying : 67.38
tackling : 8
kicking : 8
punting : 8

Bonuses:
22.5% Catch %
15% Fake %

Top SA Tree: | 4 | 8 | 1 | 0 | 0 |
Bottom SA Tree: | 3 | 6 | 3 | 3 | 10 |
Additional SA Tree: 10 Catch Fake

VA's: haven't given to much thought outside of these for main VA's.
15 Poss Rec
15 Mr. Reliable
15 Quick Feet
15 Slippery
6 Quick
1 OT killer
? Slot Machine
? YAC Attack
 
MileHighShoes
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What?
Why?

Why did you use the power receiver archetype if you were leaving strength that low? You're jumping is incredibly low and you'll have trouble beating DB's to the ball, and you're dot is rather slow, so you won't get much seperation except from catch fake and juke. This is a rather odd build, you might be decent like this... but I can't see this dot finding great success in pro leagues like this.
 
Theo Wizzago
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(cut&paste from other post on your build)
Somehow I think you'd do better with using the Possession Receiver with your build. I could be wrong and I suspect other have differing ideas about this but I had a very successful Pwr WR several seasons back. Built him per request as primarily an outside blocker for outside running plays. Where we differed (my build against yours):
My strength was around 80 (maybe as high as 85 but it was at least 80). Helped a lot with blocking and with catching (not many KL's)... especially late in his build when he caught a lot of his passes in heavy traffic.
I maxed out his height and weight as well. Think glorified TE playing WR (or what you would get by playing Tony Gonzalez or Antonio Gates at WR).
Out speeds were similar... I think mine ended at 138.
Agility was about the same.
My Jumping was around 70 by end of build. Really helped with making catches in traffic.
Stamina about the same.
My vision was higher but I've learned some things since then. Now I would stop vision at around 70 (plenty vision for a WR IMO).
My blocking was, of course, higher as I built him for blocking on outside runs (somewhere around 1st cap).
You catching is just a little higher than mine was... I seem to remember it being around 85).
Our carrying was about equal... mine was maybe a touch lower.
I didn't think fake was a good SA for what I'd built... went with Catch and Jump Catch (I think).

Our VA's are different too. Again, I KNEW my dot wasn't a super speedster so I concentrated on VA's that helped him make catches and deck would-be tacklers. So no slippery, or quick feet for me. I had outside blocker and Sure Hands.
If you check the main attributes of a Pwr WR, I think I remember Strength as being one of them. Your strength, at that low a skill level, means your build wouldn't really be a Pwr Wr... which is why I think you'd be better served by using the Poss WR archetype for what you're planning.
 
Jonezy
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Originally posted by MileHighShoes
What?
Why?

Why did you use the power receiver archetype if you were leaving strength that low? You're jumping is incredibly low and you'll have trouble beating DB's to the ball, and you're dot is rather slow, so you won't get much seperation except from catch fake and juke. This is a rather odd build, you might be decent like this... but I can't see this dot finding great success in pro leagues like this.


You saw it and cause I could .

I wanted strength up higher like Wizz said to help out with KL's and blocking outside. Maybe I should take a different route and leave my catching around 85. Then scrap w/e fake ideas i had and go with a more outside blocking oriented approach. Make better use of the arch type. Was thinking with 100 agility and 10 running he would end up getting the separation to make the 5-10 yard catches. Have to think more on this, thanks for the input.
 
TehKyou
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Don't listen to them , do what makes you feel good. The only differences between the Power Archetype and Possession archetype is 10 lbs, Swapping Jumping with Strength as a major, and no penalties to FS or Quick Cut, as well as no bonus to RR or Sticky Hands. If you are going for a fake and get open receiver, then possession archetype only has the edge on Route Run SA. You can use either Arch for that role. If you chose strength for it's slightly better break tackle ability, which I am guessing you are due to you wanting to use slippery, I'd consider increasing spin a little.

My Power WR had a bad season last season. I messed up on his build though. Thought I was a genius and went vision before catching. I'm taking my newer one in a slightly different direction based on my experiances.
Edited by TehKyou on Jul 20, 2013 20:35:22
 
Jampy2.0
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Originally posted by TehKyou


My Power WR had a bad season last season.


If you built it like OP, then no wonder.

Thing is OP, even if you make this dot, who outside reg pro will want to use it.
 
Theo Wizzago
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Originally posted by Jonezy
You saw it and cause I could .

I wanted strength up higher like Wizz said to help out with KL's and blocking outside. Maybe I should take a different route and leave my catching around 85. Then scrap w/e fake ideas i had and go with a more outside blocking oriented approach. Make better use of the arch type. Was thinking with 100 agility and 10 running he would end up getting the separation to make the 5-10 yard catches. Have to think more on this, thanks for the input.


Taking off on kinda what TehKyou posted, there isn't really much difference between the Poss and the Power archetypes... which is why around 90% of all WR's built are speedsters... and probably 9.5% of the rest are Possession. Whether you use the Power or the Possession, just know that you're going to build a dot that ISN'T speed intensive (at least not as much as the speed arch). When you start from that mindset, it's easier to piece together where you want to go from there. I chose the tallest and biggest build I could get by going Power WR and maxing both of those out. I STILL attacked speed first (I expect to get a lot of hate mail for that) because I KNEW he had to at LEAST be fast enough to work as a WR. I still used Multi-training to attack his other primary skills and always had a goal of 80 strength and 80 catching. The rest I found a way to fit into the build as I went along.
I completely enjoyed the build and he did more than I ever expected him to... both as a blocker AND as a receiver. He also got a lot of Special Teams love as well. I'd gladly build him again... this time better. And I'd still do mostly the same as I did before. He was never built to be a "greatest player ever!" build... never expected him to win awards or lead the league in anything... never was aver going to be a superstar player. But he did everything I built him for and more and, to me, that's the best thing anyone can say about the dots they build. I just hope I helped you in that way.
Edited by Theo Wizzago on Jul 21, 2013 21:40:46
 


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