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Just By You (Lv. 50/52 WR)
Ht/Wt: 6'1", 175lbs

Experience, Skill Points, and Cash
Money: $0
Daily Salary: $8000
Skill Points: 25
Training Points: 4
Bonus Tokens: 5
Veteran Points: 0
Next Level: 250/1000

Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 6
Speed: 121.45 (+34)
Agility: 79.12
Jumping: 28.27
Stamina: 41.61
Vision: 63.78
Confidence: 52.45

Football Skills
Blocking: 6
Catching: 72.45
Tackling: 8
Throwing: 8
Carrying: 42.94
Kicking: 8
Punting: 8

Special Abilities
Possession Receiver Abilities
Route Running: 0
Sticky Hands: 0
Jumping Catch: 0
Diving Catch: 0
One Handed Catch: 0

Speedster Abilities
First Step: 2
Quick Cut: 1
Head Fake: 1
Spin: 1
Juke: 1

Additional Abilities
Catch in Stride: 0
Veteran Abilities
Track Star: 12
Red Zone Freak: 15

Current Bonuses/Penalties
Speed: +3.15
Catch ball chance: +18%

And...he often has a hard time getting open. Any suggestions.

I'd retire and start over. Take his speed up much higher then you did.

i have a possession receiver whos the same age with more agility and speed. id echo the above post.

Originally posted by southsux926
i have a possession receiver whos the same age with more agility and speed. id echo the above post.
I trust you guys but really trying to figure this out. So how come your WR is 53/52(-1) and mine is a 50/52(+2)? Doesn't the Actual Rating vs. Reg. Rating tell you if your build is good or not?

And I would love to see your players build. Can you please copy and past it here like I did?

If it makes you feel better this guy http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4406148
has the exact same speed and agility as yours at level 35. His speed would also be higher by a few points but I messed up on his training and just decided to start working another attribute earlier than I had planned instead. I'm still not finished capping his agility either.

So in other words, I would have expected your WR to have more speed and agility. He'll have a hard time getting open for the rest of his career

A decently built MLB would be able to keep up with your wr with that speed and agility.

Can anyone answer my question of how come a player can have a 50/52 rating but be a worse build than a player with a 53/52?

Is this game just messed up? How can you build a positive build if the game is telling you something that isn't true?

Originally posted by dfoke
Can anyone answer my question of how come a player can have a 50/52 rating but be a worse build than a player with a 53/52?

Is this game just messed up? How can you build a positive build if the game is telling you something that isn't true?

He built a Power wr, which means that his speed was a minor attribute, and possibly neglected one or two of his majors to get that up first. That could lead to a bad effective level.

Also, nobody said his was better, just that he says he has higher speed.

As for the initial question, it is still 12-15 levels too soon to worry about SA's and even after you start you shouldn't go very heavy in them until you are getting ready for your final boost at 73.

A speed WR should have natural stats similar to these by level 50, none of the other attributes matter at this stage of the build.

Speed:95
Agility:85
Catching:70
Vision:65

You have stopped speed and started with confidence and stamina way too early in the build

Originally posted by dfoke
Can anyone answer my question of how come a player can have a 50/52 rating but be a worse build than a player with a 53/52?

Is this game just messed up? How can you build a positive build if the game is telling you something that isn't true?

You gotta be careful when considering Effective Level vs True Level. I can create a dot same age as yours whose EL is WAY higher... but the dot would be total crap. EL considers ALL of your Primary and Secondary Skills TOGETHER. So you can have a level 52 WR with 70 speed, 70 agility, 70 catching, 70 vision, 70 carrying, 60 jumping and 60 stamina and his EL would be WAY up there... but he would be completely worthless. Once your dots hits age 60+, his EL should start to really show a more better vision of how you've done than dots below level 60. Reason? By that time you've probably finished with his #1 skill and have been working hard on his other skills so the build is becoming more balanced out... therefore the EL shows that.

I don't wanna say EL is a worthless number... just saying it's not always accurate or indicative of the quality of the dot. The biggest example of this fact is STOP dots or Returners. The very best have some so-so EL's because of the way their built and the fact that EL's are based more off Positions... not archetypes. So a STOP center who is awesome in his job, generally has a shitty EL because the game looks at him as a REGULAR center... not a STOP.

Hope that explains a bit about EL's vs Real Levels. As for building better dots, you might check the script forum for the VPB (Virtual Player Builder) and give that a go. It'll let you try different approaches, BEFORE you spend money on a dot, to see what works best. Also check out the build forums and the FAQ forum for info or you can post there for advice.
That said, what most are saying here is accurate. You want to have your Speed (for the WR you are building) around 100 by level 50 (or as close as possible). I might disagree with Rawlax on the 4th skill being vision... I'd prefer Carrying over vision... but other than that, he's about right on.

Vision is a major so it should be raised earlier than carrying to take advantage of the auto level gains. Not saying that carrying cant be taken higher than vision, just that it is more efficient to raise vision first.

Typically you shouldnt train or add SP to any attribute that is not a major prior to hitting level 50

to echo the above, i didnt say my player was better, only that as a possession receiver he is just as fast (which is a problem for you). my WR was built as an experiment to make a blocking WR with servicable speed/ agility/ catching. a speed receiver should be the fastest player on the field

Thanks guys!

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4394321
Might not be the best example but check out my receiver who is a lvl lower than yours. You worked on confidence vision and carry way to early. Jumping is more important than those to in your build because vision will end higher than you need it now... I have 4 less EQ points than you yet I have 6 more speed that's huge also 2 more ago and 3 more catch that's a big difference and is much more effective than the little confidence and carry you have.