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Originally posted by gbororats
morale and confidence are not the same thing. You are talking about apples to oranges.

Okay you've got my interest... what exactly do you think Confidence impacts in the SIM that morale doesn't?



Confidence

Originally posted by Bort
Also, don't underestimate the power of confidence. In-game morale simulates the idea of momentum. If your players have low confidence, momentum can very quickly swing away from you as they get demoralized from missing tackles or giving up points or turning the ball over, etc. If your confidence is very low, your player feels like he might as well give up and will not play as well.
Originally posted by Bort
In the midst of a game your morale rises and falls based on your performance, your teammates' performance, and the performance of the other team.

In-game morale has an effect on how well you play, just like energy. Higher confidence means your player doesn't get phased by things like missing a tackle or throwing an int as much.


So in theory with the test posted above testing different amounts of Confidence you had different play results. If the QB had maxed out morale at the start of the game, how would that affect that is my question?

From your statement, it wouldn't change anything.

Its like stamina and energy. The higher your stamina the less quickly your energy drains. Lower energy causes a penalty to your attributes. Stamina helps you maintain energy.

The more confidence you have, the less your morale drops... but confidence also (if im not mistaken) is a direct modifier in some rolls, such as 3rd down situations for a WR.

lower morale makes you play like crap... but high confidence has direct impact on rolls.

so it isnt the same per say... one is a direct result of the other, but confidence plays a part in situational rolls vs morale if that makes any sense


January 9, 2013 Question I saw a comment once from Bort that receivers have some sort of check vs confidence on 3rd & 4rth down to make a catch. Is it confidence or is it morale and is it checked in other situations also?
Answer confidence directly, or they get a penalty to the catch score. QB's have a similar check for throwing good passes.

So again...

Originally posted by gbororats
morale and confidence are not the same thing. You are talking about apples to oranges.


Yes, they are two different things; however, Confidence impacts your morale. So...

Originally posted by jpjn94
It would be interesting to see this test http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=4963855&page=1#46034354 done with a QB that has a MAX contract morale bonus. I'm sure that's part of the hidden GLB code, but still would be interesting to see the results.


This test would be interesting to see how much of a difference a MAX contract would change those results. I can agree that some of those results were due to the # of Confidence, but was it Confidence or the player's Morale at the time that created that outcome?

Originally posted by jpjn94

This test would be interesting to see how much of a difference a MAX contract would change those results. I can agree that some of those results were due to the # of Confidence, but was it Confidence or the player's Morale at the time that created that outcome?



the buffer a dot gets through contracts and promotions doesn't amount to any confidence raise. It is only a means of keeping morale higher for a bit longer when stuff goes wrong and the buffer tends to vanish very fast. Far faster than morale would normally drop when things go wrong.

Originally posted by Dr. E
the buffer a dot gets through contracts and promotions doesn't amount to any confidence raise. It is only a means of keeping morale higher for a bit longer when stuff goes wrong and the buffer tends to vanish very fast. Far faster than morale would normally drop when things go wrong.

This.

Originally posted by Dr. E
the buffer a dot gets through contracts and promotions doesn't amount to any confidence raise. It is only a means of keeping morale higher for a bit longer when stuff goes wrong and the buffer tends to vanish very fast. Far faster than morale would normally drop when things go wrong.

Yes, I understand that. Do you not understand that I believe it would be interesting to see how those test results would look like with the MAX contract? The idea is to see how much of an impact the higher morale makes in those situations. You're assuming that only the Confidence # factored that outcome when it could have been the QB's morale. That is what the test would show.

Originally posted by jpjn94
Yes, I understand that. Do you not understand that I believe it would be interesting to see how those test results would look like with the MAX contract? The idea is to see how much of an impact the higher morale makes in those situations. You're assuming that only the Confidence # factored that outcome when it could have been the QB's morale. That is what the test would show.



but confidence is the only thing that is affecting the feel of hurries and bad passes... of course low morale is going to make you play like crap, but its not going to make you play like a superstar if it is sitting at +150 and you have 12 confidence.

if im not mistaken a dot with 90 confidence and 100 morale is going to play the same as a dot with 90 confidence and 150 morale. A dot with 10 confidence and 150 morale is still a dot with 10 confidence.

Bort
July 9, 2012 Question Are bad passes and bad throws when no hurry occurs (still pretty frequent) just a random thing that happens, or is it due to the proximity of the defender still (basically still a hurry but not registering as a hurry in the text)?
Answer Bad passes occur when the QB fails a roll between the incoming pressure score and his confidence/pq/pocket presence abilities. A bad throw can occur with no hurry just due to a terrible roll or pressure from a guy who's not close enough to register a hurry stat.

uestion How effective is the moral boost from higher contracts.?

Answer Hard to answer per se, but I can safely say it has an impact as it slows down morale going down which can impact a player's performance directly. It can allow for a couple bad plays to take place early on in the game with no detrimental effect.

Maybe that is your answer

Originally posted by jpjn94
Yes, I understand that. Do you not understand that I believe it would be interesting to see how those test results would look like with the MAX contract? The idea is to see how much of an impact the higher morale makes in those situations. You're assuming that only the Confidence # factored that outcome when it could have been the QB's morale. That is what the test would show.



The max contract would change nothing because it has nothing to do with the confidence attribute. I run an all passing team, have at all levels of the game and although my team was never in the WL, it played some WL teams. MY QBs always had the maximum buffer which could be had from pay and premium promotions. Not once did I notice any difference in the hurry/bad pass ratio from before the moral buffer expire to after it expired. There were differences in QB performance, but not in the hurries to bad passes ratio. I was also one of the testers who worked on this issue and I don't recall any difference there either, but, if you want. Go back to the games, find the ones where moral is shut off and compare to the ones it wasn't shut off.