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beenlurken
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The only part I dont like is this...

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Top 14 competitive teams by normal tiebreakers - 14 teams assuming no CPUs or guts (running total 128)


Why?
 
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Dr. Showtime
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Originally posted by Catch22
to be honest I did say to Bort I didn't think it was needed. He'll be the final call on it though.


why wouldn't it be needed?

http://goallineblitz.com/game/league.pl?league_id=15&conference_id=30&playoffs=0

TWO cpu teams just in one pro conference

everyone wins this way

great teams play great teams

the rest of the teams are exposed and might not be competent with going 10-6 in pro but then going 6-10 the next season
 
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Originally posted by Dr. Showtime
why wouldn't it be needed?

http://goallineblitz.com/game/league.pl?league_id=15&conference_id=30&playoffs=0

TWO cpu teams just in one pro conference

everyone wins this way

great teams play great teams

the rest of the teams are exposed and might not be competent with going 10-6 in pro but then going 6-10 the next season


He is talking about adding the level between semi pro and reg pro...
 
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World League, North Eastern & South Western Conferences

Northern Pro
Eastern Pro
Western Pro
Southern Pro

AAA

AA

A


Who cares about the rest?
 
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Originally posted by P@nda
Combine Pro
BSS Pro
Addicts Pro
DWO Pro


+1

 
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Originally posted by tpaterniti
Originally posted by P@nda

No thanks. RPro is fine as is.


Umm, no.

Originally posted by me

There is no other league level where you can basically say, no i don't want to move up with my age group. I want to stay in this league and compete against much younger players. It really makes no sense. Regional Pro should fit in as for teams with players level 68-76 and in the event that all the Pro leagues are jam packed with no CPUs at all then I could see teams that couldn't cut it there being dropped to regional pro.

As for specific teams I would be glad to go over some examples with you.

Hawaiian Kings
S27 http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?season=27&team_id=165 went 7-9 in SAPL were allowed to drop down to regional pro elite where they dominated their conference as you might expect
S28 http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?season=28&team_id=165 in Regional Pro elite they went 13-3 regular season, lost league championship game by 1 point, were as many as 10 levels higher than their opponents during the season. Basically they wrecked this conference for the teams that came up from semi-pro because the level difference was so drastic.
S29 http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?season=29&team_id=165 Now in OPL, they went 7-9 again. To me 7-9 is competitive in a Pro league to the point where under no circumstances should they be allowed to drop down to regional pro.

Chesapeake Panthers
S27 http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?season=27&team_id=5409 Went 1-15 in CPL were allowed to drop down to regional pro competitive (!)
S28 http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?season=28&team_id=5409 In regional pro competitive they won their regular season games by an average of 169.5 points per game, basically wrecking this conference for anyone who was actually age appropriate to the league
S29 http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?season=29&team_id=5409 Now in regional pro elite with all 79s they went 15-1 in the regular season. Granted they sucked in pro, but at why do we say to teams if you suck in pro you can drop down and beat down teams with much younger players? Maybe it was good for this team but bad for the 31 teams they destroyed in 2 regular seasons in regional Pro

Queen City Bobcats
S28 http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?season=28&team_id=536 Slightly different situation, they finished with all level 79s and I believe wanted to go pro but were told they couldn't.
S29 http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?season=29&team_id=536 with all 79s right from the get-go in regional pro they went 19-1, not losing a game until the championship. Again the huge level disparity basically wrecked this conference for any level-appropriate team. This is a case where to my mind they should have been promoted based on their levels but weren't.

STEEL Voodoo
S28 http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?season=28&team_id=2945 Similar boat as the Bobcats, went 14-4 and made it to the 2nd round of the playoffs, actually had level 79s to start season 28! They wanted to promote to Pro but were not allowed to from my understanding.
S29 http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?season=29&team_id=2945 Starting the season with all 79s and with a lot of other teams promoting they demolished regional pro elite going 20-0 and winning the title. Again another team that should have been promoted but was not.

Northwoods Trojans
S29 http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?season=28&team_id=1151 Went 16-3 last season, made it to 3rd round of the playoffs, have all level 79s, but allowed to move to regional pro elite instead of going pro???

D-town Destruction
S28 http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?season=28&team_id=4575 Went 2-14 in USA Pro, allowed to drop down to Regional Pro Competitive (!)
S29 With all level 79s from the beginning they go 15-1 in the regular season and narrowly lose a 2nd round playoff game, yet they are only moved up to regional Pro elite instead of going pro???



Yes and in S28 I Coached against the Panthers @ C-Town Matadors and lost 12-10 in the Play-Off Game, After that Season, They stayed in Reg. Pro Elite and we got moved up to SA Pro. I said something about it and everyone said, You should contacted support. I questioned then about how could a Conference Champion stay and we get moved up? I shouldn't have had to say something to Support, The Conference Champion should move up no matter what.
Edited by sehorn31 on Aug 11, 2012 17:25:26
 
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TBH, I think this is a tad overkill...... I wish Bort would cut back from 8 regions to 6 and see how that goes for a few seasons and then further condense if necessary. Drastic changes are a bit much right off the bat IMHO (and kind of hard to undo since it would mean admitting that a mistake was made).

 
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Originally posted by P@nda
Combine Pro
BSS Pro
Addicts Pro
DWO Pro


This is what it will end up and any average joe Agent won't get to go to one of those 4 Leagues, It will be all Network Teams!!
 
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Originally posted by Plankton
Fantastic announcement. Long overdue.

However, why stop at Nat Pro? Add a league tier between Semi - Pro and Regional Pro that is capped at 240 days old, and then the entire league system makes sense from top to bottom, and you do not have level 68s facing lvl 79s in Regional Pro.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=4953841


Right Plankton, The World and Nat Pro Leagues was fine the way they were and once again, we are fixing stuff that's not broken. Just add a League like I suggested and just Revise the way you adjust the Leagues each Season (Even it it took all day on D41). To be honest, From Semi-Pro to Reg. Pro will just get worse from what I've heard.
Edited by sehorn31 on Aug 11, 2012 17:34:01
 
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Originally posted by P@nda
GREATEST ANNOUNCEMENT SINCE Accelerated Player Building!!!



 
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Originally posted by TaySC
TBH, I think this is a tad overkill...... I wish Bort would cut back from 8 regions to 6 and see how that goes for a few seasons and then further condense if necessary. Drastic changes are a bit much right off the bat IMHO (and kind of hard to undo since it would mean admitting that a mistake was made).



Its really not that big of a change. It would be super simple to undo (I guarantee you the only reason they are doing it is because of how super simple it would be to re-expand it). It would be admitting just as much of a mistake to have to condense from 6 to 4 a couple seasons later.
 
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Originally posted by beenlurken
Originally posted by TaySC

TBH, I think this is a tad overkill...... I wish Bort would cut back from 8 regions to 6 and see how that goes for a few seasons and then further condense if necessary. Drastic changes are a bit much right off the bat IMHO (and kind of hard to undo since it would mean admitting that a mistake was made).



Its really not that big of a change. It would be super simple to undo (I guarantee you the only reason they are doing it is because of how super simple it would be to re-expand it). It would be admitting just as much of a mistake to have to condense from 6 to 4 a couple seasons later.


Right, and being that Regional Pro can expand/contract as needed, there's really no harm.

 
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Originally posted by sehorn31
This is what it will end up and any average joe Agent won't get to go to one of those 4 Leagues, It will be all Network Teams!!


league contraction = agent contraction.!
 
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Team Nucleus is gonna be pissed when he finds out you did this all because of him.
 
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