Can we just remove this one? I mean why should their reaction be any different than on 1st and 2nd down?
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jdbolick
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I imagine it's to account for the inability to change settings by down. Basically, there's nothing in player tactics that allows a dot to treat 3rd & long the way any reasonable defender would.
bhall43
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Why not make them pass defense oriented on 3rd and 4+? I certainly don't think the reaction bonus makes sense at all. Unless its the same bonus as being on pass defense. Doesn't seem like it is tho.
Bukowski
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Originally posted by .spider.
Can we just remove this one? I mean why should their reaction be any different than on 1st and 2nd down?
Because they said so!
Can we just remove this one? I mean why should their reaction be any different than on 1st and 2nd down?
Because they said so!
rockitsauce
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Believe it or not, 3rd down completion rates were higher than 1st & 2nd consistently until this was implemented. Check the test game logs. It's well documented.
Bladnach
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Well yea and that's mostly due to Mr Reliable. Bort could've fixed that by toning the Mr Reliable % down some.
I'd like to hear more on how this change works in better detail. Don't think i like it if it works as some say
I'd like to hear more on how this change works in better detail. Don't think i like it if it works as some say
WiSeIVIaN
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Originally posted by bhall43
Why not make them pass defense oriented on 3rd and 4+? I certainly don't think the reaction bonus makes sense at all. Unless its the same bonus as being on pass defense. Doesn't seem like it is tho.
Definitely should only be for 3rd-and-5+ at the very least tbh.
Why not make them pass defense oriented on 3rd and 4+? I certainly don't think the reaction bonus makes sense at all. Unless its the same bonus as being on pass defense. Doesn't seem like it is tho.
Definitely should only be for 3rd-and-5+ at the very least tbh.
Roger6363
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So we have offensive VA's that buff their 3rd down performance so we change the sim to help the defense counter act that performance....
Really? Just keep everything balanced and remove VA's....
Really? Just keep everything balanced and remove VA's....
zmj44
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Originally posted by jdbolick
I imagine it's to account for the inability to change settings by down. Basically, there's nothing in player tactics that allows a dot to treat 3rd & long the way any reasonable defender would.
Then also give a bonus on 3rd/4th and short...
I imagine it's to account for the inability to change settings by down. Basically, there's nothing in player tactics that allows a dot to treat 3rd & long the way any reasonable defender would.
Then also give a bonus on 3rd/4th and short...
rockitsauce
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Quit jumping to conclusions. Especially about VAs and what the test rosters are comprised of. It's all available and you're just guessing.
Or don't so I can get back to ignoring you.
Or don't so I can get back to ignoring you.
Edited by rockitsauce on Nov 14, 2010 16:33:39
bhall43
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Originally posted by rockitsauce
Quit jumping to conclusions. Especially about VAs and what the test rosters are comprised of. It's all available and you're just guessing.
Or don't so I can get back to ignoring you.
Make sense plz.
Quit jumping to conclusions. Especially about VAs and what the test rosters are comprised of. It's all available and you're just guessing.
Or don't so I can get back to ignoring you.
Make sense plz.
Roger6363
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Originally posted by bhall43
Originally posted by rockitsauce
Quit jumping to conclusions. Especially about VAs and what the test rosters are comprised of. It's all available and you're just guessing.
Or don't so I can get back to ignoring you.
Make sense plz.
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Originally posted by rockitsauce
Quit jumping to conclusions. Especially about VAs and what the test rosters are comprised of. It's all available and you're just guessing.
Or don't so I can get back to ignoring you.
Make sense plz.
+1
Edited by Roger6363 on Nov 14, 2010 18:53:42
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