Warrior General Games

Elusive is a GLB term and I'm not ever been real clear on what kind of HB IRL that would equate to. Is realism even a stated aim of this game anymore anyway? But anyhow why would a spin or fake be exclusive to elusive backs? All HBs have to be able to elude tacklers! The term elusive HB is redundant. Jerome Bettis was about as powerful as you get and he had a hell of a spin move. Without it he would have been Ron Dayne. It's not unrealistic that anyone thinks that you don't to have moves to be a power runner. If it was possible in today's NFL to line up a guy and have him just run through and over people as his only means of gaining yards it would still be dominated by FBs like it was in the 50s and 60s. Fact is all modern NFL runners have to be able to juke or fake or spin or something. And they have to be able to bounce it outside and cut back as well. They also have to have power too though and be able to run through tackles. Most NFL backs would be combo backs by GLB definition. And the fabled elusive back? Who would fit that definition in the NFL? Maybe a few like Bush, Tomlinson, Westbrook. But most of your top backs are physical N & S runners who can also bounce it outside and make people miss, and have great vision and instincts to make reads and react.

Here's a fix for you....go back to season 13's sim. The changes in season 14 and 15 have set the game back. The changes opened up way too many exploits and have created huges gaps in competitive balance. YOu can't mount an effective passing attack unless your a top passing team. Most teams are well below 60 % completion. I'm tired of waiting on Bort to get this game together. 2 years and we are still dealing with the same old shit. I've already decided to let my team go and let my players finish there last 3 seasons out then quit the game. But I don't really know if I can stay with it that long. I definitely can't see myself building new players in this environment of everything will change again and again because BOrt is reacting instead of planning.

Just like this thread. WTF do we have to have a 500 person discussion about everything before hand. If Bort wants to change the slider then do it. I simply suggested in the suggestions forum that Spin be toned down and I get referred here. Well I really don't care how it's accomplished. I'm a paying customer, I want to have fun, not help you figure out the best way to fix your problems. If you want to know what I think then run a poll. Quit using these threads as a way of getting a rubber stamp from your users for everything you want to change.


Is this really supposed to be a solution? Why not fix the flawed sim? Oh wait...that would be because of the flawed business plan that required GLB to make money in order to improve the game. Generally businesses have to be built up and invested in initially. Why not secure some kind of financial backing and hire the staff necessary to fix your product. I know it seems harsh, but if customers are constantly bemoaning your product there is probably something to it. I know the sim has been improved as time has went on. But it's a catch 22 because it has been complicated and made to be flawed in other ways as well. It was more fun in the first 6 or 7 seasons than it is now. It's just to complicated and not user friendly at all. I think user friendly was obviously not in the plans at all. It's really about as difficult to use the game and find out what you need to know as it possibly can be. Congrats on succeeding at creating a product that people go crazy for. Congrats also for driving people away at the same time by being half assed and unprofessional about it. You know are a akin to common fast food restaurant.

Originally posted by mwindle
Is realism even a stated aim of this game anymore anyway?

nope and never was apparently

if they wanted realism, they wouldn't have focused the game so heavily on player development

So fellas...what's the status on this?

I see alot of good ideas in here regarding tying SA's to the slider and trying to fix the overpowered Spin. I really hope we don't see another season of it.

I think I speak for most people who don't own Spin backs....spinning is cool for elusives, they don't have much else going on. But there needs to be a way to stop combo backs from exploiting it via running style and not have an negative consequences on their power SA's firing.

Spin fires about as much as Powerthru or Stiff Arm.....but you shouldn't be able to roll with every good Power SA and also the best elusive SA.

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