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Triple_A
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What about the MVP EQ being the same as the endorsement system EQ. Not too sweet, but guaranteed. That would be fair and most should not complain about the EQ.
Edited by Triple_A on Apr 20, 2010 19:48:57
 
Bukowski
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The issue here, is that there are more people that don't win an MVP, compared to the people that do.

So of course, more people are going to like this change, because it gives them a little more hope, which is complete nonsense.

Every change lately seems like this, GLB trying to give the little guy some hope, so that he doesn't stop buying flex points.
 
beenlurken
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Originally posted by Triple_A
What about the MVP EQ being the same as the endorsement system EQ. Not too sweet, but guaranteed. That would be fair and most should not complain about the EQ.


Sounds simple, doesnt it... nope, people want the overpowered piece.
 
tpaterniti
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The thread Really? A lottery system? I mean Really? has been merged into this thread
 
PatrolzCat
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-the MVP endorsement will no longer automatically be handed out to the player who finishes first. It will be a lottery type system similar to how in season endorsements are handed out between the players that finish in the top 5. It's weighted, the higher you finish the more likely it is you will get the endorsement.

What is the point then? You finished number 1, but you don't get the reward for it. No you get to be put in a ping pong machine, but you have more balls then #5, however though, it's a random luck ass thing, so #5 with his 3 ping pong balls has a chance to beat your 10, even though your player was #1, and had a better season.

Makes sense? No.

So you could potentially finish #1, and get nothing for having a great season. That would be like the NFL taking Manning, Brady, Favre, and Brees putting them into a ping pong machine, and give them the award.

There's a system setup to award the best player. Thankfully, it's an unbiased system, it doesn't factor opinions of other people into it. It solely is judged by the stats you put up against the level of competition you play. Wasn't the blow out adjusted stats what fixed this.

Just plain dumb if you ask me.
 
uoY_redruM
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As someone who's finished 2nd a shit ton over the seasons, I can't complain one bit
 
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NBA LOTTERY.. Strikes again
 
PatrolzCat
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Originally posted by uoY_redruM
As someone who's finished 2nd a shit ton over the seasons, I can't complain one bit


Yeah, but you were where you deserved to be 2nd. If you had gotten first you wouldn't complain that 2nd should of won it. Now you could finish 2nd, and still get nothing.

If they want to give #5 a chance then do a declining scale award to them.

Let's take a Special Teams MVP for a Return Man

1st Place
+1 Return Specialist, 1 Agilty, 1 Carrying, 1 Speed, Vision

2nd Place
+1 Return Specialist, 1 Agility 1 Carrying, 1 Speed

3rd Place
+1 Agility, +1 Carrying, +1 Speed

4th Place
+1 Agility, +1 Carrying

5th Place
+1 Agility
 
uoY_redruM
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I don't really care, to be totally honest.

I did when it first came out, but at this point I really don't.
 
jamz
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There's a thread in game changes discussion, may have more luck there, mi compadre.
 
tpaterniti
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It's because a lot of times the formula for #1 is not totally accurate (at least as I see it). It's not like the guy who finishes first is always without a doubt the best player on that side of the ball in a given season. He may not even have the best stats. For example we all know that fumbles count for way more in the D-line calculation than sacks, hurries, or sacks. Now it is unlikely that a guy who only forces a lot of fumbles will be able to get to number 1 without other supporting stats, but it can still skew the numbers. Look at my retired DE's season 11:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=32070

He finished second that season in large part because he racked up a ton of fumbles and sacks in 2 gutted games due to a specialized gameplan I ran for just that purpose.
 
beenlurken
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Originally posted by Bukowski
The issue here, is that there are more people that don't win an MVP, compared to the people that do.

So of course, more people are going to like this change, because it gives them a little more hope, which is complete nonsense.

Every change lately seems like this, GLB trying to give the little guy some hope, so that he doesn't stop buying flex points.


Thing is you admit that the system is broken. Winning an MVP (especially the ST MVP) is a joke. The mere fact that our (Mists) K is currently in the top 10 for O MVP in USAPL is a joke.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/league.pl?league_id=1

A system that has him there cant possibly be reliable enough to get the sweet equipment piece to the right player. If they wont remove the piece or water it down than those who really deserve it despite not finishing #1 should have a shot at it.

In all fairness, I dont think they can create a system that awards the most deserving player the MVP/equipment piece (granted the ST MVP is garbage and could use a lot of work to at least get on the same level as the O and D MVPs which arent horrible). This change acknowledges this and is really intended to give those who are more/most deserving of the piece a shot at it when the system failed to rank them #1.
 
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Originally posted by tpaterniti
It's because a lot of times the formula for #1 is not totally accurate (at least as I see it). It's not like the guy who finishes first is always without a doubt the best player on that side of the ball in a given season. He may not even have the best stats. For example we all know that fumbles count for way more in the D-line calculation than sacks, hurries, or sacks. Now it is unlikely that a guy who only forces a lot of fumbles will be able to get to number 1 without other supporting stats, but it can still skew the numbers. Look at my retired DE's season 11:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=32070

He finished second that season in large part because he racked up a ton of fumbles and sacks in 2 gutted games due to a specialized gameplan I ran for just that purpose.


THEN FIX THE FORMULA.

What would be so wrong about that?

Obviously, that is really the issue, so just fix the right problem. Don't punish people because GLB is too uninterested to fix the actual problem.
 
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Originally posted by Bukowski
THEN FIX THE FORMULA.

What would be so wrong about that?

Obviously, that is really the issue, so just fix the right problem. Don't punish people because GLB is too uninterested to fix the actual problem.


Starting whining and crying enough, so you can get apart of Catch's agenda to make sure GLB is exactly how, him and his crybabies want it to be. This is ridiculous. Hey you are #1, but #5 won the award sorry. Good season for you, you were better stat wise, which what this award is based off of, but crybaby wise, you finished 5th.
 
beenlurken
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Originally posted by Bukowski
Originally posted by tpaterniti

It's because a lot of times the formula for #1 is not totally accurate (at least as I see it). It's not like the guy who finishes first is always without a doubt the best player on that side of the ball in a given season. He may not even have the best stats. For example we all know that fumbles count for way more in the D-line calculation than sacks, hurries, or sacks. Now it is unlikely that a guy who only forces a lot of fumbles will be able to get to number 1 without other supporting stats, but it can still skew the numbers. Look at my retired DE's season 11:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=32070

He finished second that season in large part because he racked up a ton of fumbles and sacks in 2 gutted games due to a specialized gameplan I ran for just that purpose.


THEN FIX THE FORMULA.

What would be so wrong about that?

Obviously, that is really the issue, so just fix the right problem. Don't punish people because GLB is too uninterested to fix the actual problem.


Do you honestly think the formula can be fixed?

Blowout games will always grossly impact rankings... also Bort insists that players on every team should have a shot at MVP despite their team being 0-16 having lost every game by 255+. As long as those effect the system it will never be fixed.
Edited by beenlurken on Apr 20, 2010 20:43:17
 
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