Originally posted by Deathblade
tbf..."possession" WRs are usually ones that are agile enough, and run their routes crisp enough to get open frequently on short yardage plays, while having the endurance to be able to take the hit, aren't they?
Possession WRs aren't "pass to me in triple coverage every play and watch me catch it" kind of receivers.
I don't really care how you want to categorize the roles semantically. But for the sake of argument, lets take a quick look at the "Possession Receiver Tree"... we have nothing but SA's designed to make difficult catches and to win rolls, and of course one other SA whose description states, "very important to receivers who are otherwise not very fast or agile."
Regardless, I'm not saying that any receiver under the influence of any VA stack should be able to consistently catch balls in triple coverage against decently well built CB's. But when it happens it's generally due to something like stacked VA's/AEQ, a lucky roll, or CB's with very low PD scores.
Should builds built to win rolls be able to catch a decent number of passes in single or occasional double coverage? Sure, I have no problem with that, it's a situational role and there are trade offs such as the lack of big play making abilities. It adds an additional strategic element; do you throw to the Possession build who's more likely to make the 8 yard catch even with some coverage or the Speedster who is more vulnerable to PD's but capable of 70 yard TD's?
Finalyl, not only will wr's be affected by the loss of 11.5% to catch from a 2nd AEQ piece, but also from a diminished +% pass quality piece from their QB's. Which Bort has recently clarified does affect the PD roll.
EDIT: Also, one other reason I suspect that WR's are so much more successful with the anti-PD rolls, is the advent of zone coverage. Suddenly one of the more powerful SA's in the game SDC is being removed from the PD equation. An SA that a lot of CB's used to max out on. It's not as significant as the modifiers from VA's/AEQ, but it all adds up, and it's one of the scores setting the base that the VA's/AEQ on the CB side modify.
tbf..."possession" WRs are usually ones that are agile enough, and run their routes crisp enough to get open frequently on short yardage plays, while having the endurance to be able to take the hit, aren't they?
Possession WRs aren't "pass to me in triple coverage every play and watch me catch it" kind of receivers.
I don't really care how you want to categorize the roles semantically. But for the sake of argument, lets take a quick look at the "Possession Receiver Tree"... we have nothing but SA's designed to make difficult catches and to win rolls, and of course one other SA whose description states, "very important to receivers who are otherwise not very fast or agile."
Regardless, I'm not saying that any receiver under the influence of any VA stack should be able to consistently catch balls in triple coverage against decently well built CB's. But when it happens it's generally due to something like stacked VA's/AEQ, a lucky roll, or CB's with very low PD scores.
Should builds built to win rolls be able to catch a decent number of passes in single or occasional double coverage? Sure, I have no problem with that, it's a situational role and there are trade offs such as the lack of big play making abilities. It adds an additional strategic element; do you throw to the Possession build who's more likely to make the 8 yard catch even with some coverage or the Speedster who is more vulnerable to PD's but capable of 70 yard TD's?
Finalyl, not only will wr's be affected by the loss of 11.5% to catch from a 2nd AEQ piece, but also from a diminished +% pass quality piece from their QB's. Which Bort has recently clarified does affect the PD roll.
EDIT: Also, one other reason I suspect that WR's are so much more successful with the anti-PD rolls, is the advent of zone coverage. Suddenly one of the more powerful SA's in the game SDC is being removed from the PD equation. An SA that a lot of CB's used to max out on. It's not as significant as the modifiers from VA's/AEQ, but it all adds up, and it's one of the scores setting the base that the VA's/AEQ on the CB side modify.
Edited by Saris on Mar 6, 2010 23:02:33
Edited by Saris on Mar 6, 2010 22:57:48
Edited by Saris on Mar 6, 2010 22:34:49
Edited by Saris on Mar 6, 2010 22:33:43
