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I think this format, suggested in a thread in the Oceania general forum, is a good way to fix this problem

The following teams would be in Oceania Pro
Pro Teams 1-16
AAA Teams 1-8
AA Teams 1-4
A Teams 1-4

The following teams would be in Oceania AAA
Pro Teams 17-24
AAA Teams 9-24
AA Teams 5-8
A Teams 5-8

The following teams would be in Oceania AA
Pro Teams 25-28
AAA Teams 25-28
AA Teams 9-28
A Teams 9-12

The following teams would be in Oceania A
Pro, AAA, and AA Teams 29-32
A teams 13-32


Although, I can definentely see why borderline playoff teams might have a problem being sent down when they are close to being (or are) better than a higher seeded team.

This format would also put three Brisbane teams in the Pros funnily enough.

I'm in favor of the voluntary aspect for sure, and while I lean towards the side of forced restructuring from the admins, I think there's going to be backlash from some of the teams that are forced move down. So I agree, but it has to be handled with caution so additional problems and bickering aren't created.

I agree in principle; execution would be very tough.

I like the idea. As the season has gone on, most leagues (Pro to A) all seem to have closer and closer to the same overall talent level.

So moving Pro to A and some A to Pro doesn't seem that far fetched to me. The numbers kept in each level seems to have been proposed to maintain some continuity from level to level.

What about the future? All the levels would seem to be more competitive and there would be fewer undefeated teams. Hopefully the weakest Pro teams (who moved up from lower levels in the first place), won't get dumped all the way back down to A again.

It shouldn't seem to matter, in the end, since free agency/new expansion teams will mix up team chemistry/rosters. Plus diminishing returns on higher level player training/xp will lead to greater player parity as time moves on. The teams that started earlier have the advantage now, but the advantage will wain as time marches forward.

Try to maintain the advantage Pro leaguers - build that stadium!

Just my 2 cents.

as one of those top teams that would come to pro league the only problem I have with that is we played a whopping 6 games during season 1 and you guys played 16. I think my team needs one or two more seasons to close the skill gap and actually win games consistently at this level.

Originally posted by BigD123
I think this format, suggested in a thread in the Oceania general forum, is a good way to fix this problem

The following teams would be in Oceania Pro
Pro Teams 1-16
AAA Teams 1-8
AA Teams 1-4
A Teams 1-4

The following teams would be in Oceania AAA
Pro Teams 17-24
AAA Teams 9-24
AA Teams 5-8
A Teams 5-8

The following teams would be in Oceania AA
Pro Teams 25-28
AAA Teams 25-28
AA Teams 9-28
A Teams 9-12

The following teams would be in Oceania A
Pro, AAA, and AA Teams 29-32
A teams 13-32


Although, I can definentely see why borderline playoff teams might have a problem being sent down when they are close to being (or are) better than a higher seeded team.

This format would also put three Brisbane teams in the Pros funnily enough.

I kinda like this.

A mass restructuring before the region is placed into a Pyramid prior to season 3 is a good idea to me. Match up the conferences a little better and make then all more competitive.

Then use the game wide promotion / demotion rules of 2 down 1 up in season 4 and beyond.

I don't agree with it. I think a LOT can be learned by managing your team's collective energy after easy win games, especially 2 in a row.
Part of playing the game is learning how to adapt to your players' sapped energy IMO.

Originally posted by BigD123
I think this format, suggested in a thread in the Oceania general forum, is a good way to fix this problem

The following teams would be in Oceania Pro
Pro Teams 1-16
AAA Teams 1-8
AA Teams 1-4
A Teams 1-4

The following teams would be in Oceania AAA
Pro Teams 17-24
AAA Teams 9-24
AA Teams 5-8
A Teams 5-8

The following teams would be in Oceania AA
Pro Teams 25-28
AAA Teams 25-28
AA Teams 9-28
A Teams 9-12

The following teams would be in Oceania A
Pro, AAA, and AA Teams 29-32
A teams 13-32


Although, I can definentely see why borderline playoff teams might have a problem being sent down when they are close to being (or are) better than a higher seeded team.

This format would also put three Brisbane teams in the Pros funnily enough.

Two questions: 1) How would tie breakers work between interconference teams? You could go to point differential, but you're going to hear 'strength of schedule/conference' arguments.

2) Would this happen after every season? Or just after season 2?

I oppose moving a whole HALF of the pro league to lower levels in one shot. That's way too drastic. Getting rid of the bottom 4-6 every year will eventually provide the necessary correction, while also being a FAR more sustainable system than dumping half the league every year.

Originally posted by BigD123
I think this format, suggested in a thread in the Oceania general forum, is a good way to fix this problem

The following teams would be in Oceania Pro
Pro Teams 1-16
AAA Teams 1-8
AA Teams 1-4
A Teams 1-4

The following teams would be in Oceania AAA
Pro Teams 17-24
AAA Teams 9-24
AA Teams 5-8
A Teams 5-8

The following teams would be in Oceania AA
Pro Teams 25-28
AAA Teams 25-28
AA Teams 9-28
A Teams 9-12

The following teams would be in Oceania A
Pro, AAA, and AA Teams 29-32
A teams 13-32


Although, I can definentely see why borderline playoff teams might have a problem being sent down when they are close to being (or are) better than a higher seeded team.

This format would also put three Brisbane teams in the Pros funnily enough.

there are some good teams who are just barely missing th playoffs. i am shure they would be pissed moving down. and taking a current A team and making them pro would have them just getting murdered

Personally, I hate the idea - sure we're only 5-9-1 but we were 12 points from 3 more wins and being 8-7 today. We also did very well defensively against most of the solid teams in this league. For a short while, I considered switching leagues and I'm still slightly toying with the idea, but as we progress, it's becoming obvious that we can compete with the top teams and that within a season or two we should be caught up to them.

I disagree with turning the whole thing upside down just because there are some solid teams in lower leagues. It's not fair to the teams that have shown they belong here and want to prove they belong here in the future. I think the only option is a voluntary reshuffling. If teams don't want to move, they shouldn't be forced.

I think it's fine the way it is.

i think that instead of 2 going up and 2 down, it should be 4. There is more than 1 team in each conference that can compete in the upper level, and more than 1 weakass in every conference. Teams that make it to the conference championship should go up and the bottom four should go down