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Warlock
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Originally posted by Kyriakin
Seems, with less levelling bonusses, it is hard to make a FB/TE guy with o-linemen levels of strength and blocking without heavily compromising on mobility. Getting those two base attributes into the mid-80's just takes too long, and you're then in a race against time to 'un-suck' him elsewhere.

Works better with the TE than the FB though. FB seems to have too much need/emphasis on speed to go too far down the 'steriod junkie' route.

Anyway, no big deal. Was worth a spin. If every dot was the same, the game would become even more linear than it is already. Fuck about with equip and remaining SP and they'll be serviceable situational guys in AAA or maybe Pro when they peak.


Bull. My little FB will have 73 natural strength and carrying by level 27 (strength will be ~80 naturally by level 27 from level-ups), agility and speed will hit 60 and 68 respectively by the time I hit level 45 or so. If you swap carrying and blocking, it's very possible to hit close to OL levels of strength/blocking and still be mobile... the only difference is that you will be a handful of points lower in your primary attributes, due to level-up differences. My level 44 G has 80.5 strength, 80.5 blocking, 74.5 agility and 57 speed natural attributes (292 total). My FB will have very similar numbers when he hits level 44... ~83 strength, ~75 carrying, ~61 agility and ~68 speed natural (287 total). It's not realistic to expect to have the same strength/blocking of an OL player, yet also be more mobile... OL sacrifice some mobility to achieve those numbers in strength/blocking... FB/TE sacrifices some strength/blocking to achieve decent mobility.

You built your FB like a lineman, which is fine as an inside blocker, but that is the role you have built for him. If you want to also be able to effectively block outside , you have to sacrifice some of that blocking ability to be more mobile.
 
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Considering FBs get better level up points in Str/Blk/Agi, it's quite easy for a FB to have a better blocking build than any OT.
 
Kyriakin
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Well that's what I meant. If you sacrifice those last few slow-and-painful points in natural strength/blocking (both in terms of SP and training) you can make a big difference to his mobility. You only lose a bit of str/blo but gain a lot of speed/agi.

I trained strength and blocking at something like 2-3% for a season-or-two and was putting SP into those stats at something like 5:1, when I should have bailed out sooner and pumped mobility. I know that now. Just got to judge the timing better next time.

Do TE/FB get bigger bonuses? You're probably right, and I can't remember where it is all written (Wiki somewhere I think). I had thought these positions were somewhat hamstrung by having to share extra points with unwanted stats (for pure blockers anyway) like carrying and catching?
Edited by Kyriakin on Nov 30, 2009 20:11:43
 
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Originally posted by TheGreatPuma
Considering FBs get better level up points in Str/Blk/Agi, it's quite easy for a FB to have a better blocking build than any OT.


No they don't.

FBs get 0.5 to their primaries. OGs get 0.67 to their primaries. Centers get a full point to their primaries. I'm not sure about OTs, since I haven't made one since S2. FBs might have the edge in agility over OL, but they lose when comparing strength and blocking.
 
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Originally posted by Kyriakin
Well that's what I meant. If you sacrifice those last few slow-and-painful points in natural strength/blocking (both in terms of SP and training) you can make a big difference to his mobility. You only lose a bit of str/blo but gain a lot of speed/agi.

I trained strength and blocking at something like 2-3% for a season-or-two and was putting SP into those stats at something like 5:1, when I should have bailed out sooner and pumped mobility. I know that now. Just got to judge the timing better next time.

Do TE/FB get bigger bonuses? You're probably right, and I can't remember where it is all written (Wiki somewhere I think). I had thought these positions were somewhat hamstrung by having to share extra points with unwanted stats (for pure blockers anyway) like carrying and catching?


Well that was just inefficient building. I never train an attribute that is over the first cap, unless every other important attribute is over that level. I also never take an attribute past 77, most of the time 73 is the highest I go. Like you said though, you didn't know any better back then.
 
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Originally posted by Warlock
Originally posted by TheGreatPuma

Considering FBs get better level up points in Str/Blk/Agi, it's quite easy for a FB to have a better blocking build than any OT.


No they don't.
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Yes they do. OT primaries are 0.4 through level 21.

Edited by cordarone on Dec 1, 2009 05:01:47
 
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Originally posted by Warlock
No they don't.

FBs get 0.5 to their primaries. OGs get 0.67 to their primaries. Centers get a full point to their primaries. I'm not sure about OTs, since I haven't made one since S2. FBs might have the edge in agility over OL, but they lose when comparing strength and blocking.


Re-read my post, please. I specifically said OTs.
 
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Originally posted by TheGreatPuma
Re-read my post, please. I specifically said OTs.


Sorry, it was late and you went off on a tangent there. The context was OL vs FB, not OT vs FB, you were the first person to specify a position on the OL and I was tired (so the OT looked like OL to my eyes).
 
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LOL, NP it happens.
 
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