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MadMustaff
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Originally posted by ghuffman

Not sure when Odessa started but i didn't join DS til season 20 i think. (Couldn't find a stud OC for Krungthep)

That's about when Mojo started winning a bunch of things


Mojo's first season in WL was season 19.
 
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Mojo has the most wins in WL Playoffs and has best playoff winning % by far. The Most Golds and Championship game appearances as well. All this has been done in a shorter span than HHWC. Also.. Mojo has won more Golds from less VA stacking (before the nerfs) than HHWC and Vahalla. So.. when considering Playoffs. Mojo's coordinators have out game planned some of the best in this game consistently for many seasons with lesser dots imo. Everyone knows our dot power was never at the same level as Vahalla, Blaze, HHWC, jdbolicks teams... even creek/hood builds. People can also mention about no cares the last 10-15 seasons... but I guarantee great coordinators like creek, snakes, etc have been staying up late at night trying to come up with a game plan to knock us out.... Mojo is the best... just ask showboat

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WiSeIVIaN
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I like when glbs strongest network says they don't have top quality dots. Adds a fantasy element to the discussion.
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
he owned all of the dots. It isn't like he put together any super great gameplans or anything along the way.

What are you talking about? On their s13 team RandomBeast had 7 of the dots, sckbleh had 2, and KYLOS LANDRY had 2, while baylorkk, drazz00 (the main HB), PP, TaintStick, Galileo, VernonDavis, ggezhb, milkoman16, PDigger, jahnke771, and Air18 all had one. Additional agents filled in for s14 and s15.

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He had a team and was going to run with it. He then backed out and left a lot of dots shifting in the wind.

You're getting confused again. w_alloy dropped every player from Valhalla's roster after that third championship: http://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=4017932 and then confirmed that the team was finished: http://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=4023946 He asked for Valhalla to be dropped down out of the World League and was going to have a no-try stat-padding team in Pro with a lot of those dots and some new ones, but then decided against doing that and gave out his players to teams that wanted them. You obviously don't remember that era very well so you should probably stop arguing about it.

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He wasn't a great coordinator.

Well that's not true at all. Alloy didn't just have the best dots, he figured out the very best plays of that sim and spammed them. Isn't that essentially what you still tell people to do? Don't you also routinely point out that tautology never won anything of consequence because he only had the dots and not the coordination to go with it?

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He played 1-2 sims under one real standard and pussed out when that changed

You need to stop saying that. You forget how long it took dots to reach plateau before accelerated leveling, and that they only had one season of plateau back then. Accusing w_alloy of "pussing out" because he quit after winning 59 out of 60 World League games is probably the dumbest thing you have ever posted on this site.

Yet again:
* Valhalla's first championship came the season before their dots hit plateau.

* Valhalla's third championship came when the roster was in the first season of decline.

* No other team has ever had an undefeated season including the playoffs. Valhalla did it twice in a row. No one else has won a title with fewer than two losses.

* Valhalla had a WL winning percentage of .983. The next best three seasons (not even consecutive) of any WL team is HHWC at .900.

* They won their three title games by 19, 30, and 31 points.

* They lost only one World League game ever (by one point to MPHD in s13 while still before plateau).

* Only once were they ever held scoreless for an entire half (by me - woot!).
 
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Originally posted by MadMustaff
Everyone knows our dot power was never at the same level as Vahalla, Blaze, HHWC, jdbolicks teams... even creek/hood builds.



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People can also mention about no cares the last 10-15 seasons

Half of those championships coming after s40 is a relevant issue. That and the huge advantage that the network provides are why I would rank Odessa third behind HHWC. Hali is fourth and the Blaze would be fifth.
 
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Originally posted by jdbolick

Half of those championships coming after s40 is a relevant issue. That and the huge advantage that the network provides are why I would rank Odessa third behind HHWC. Hali is fourth and the Blaze would be fifth.


So having a strong network for your franchise is a bad thing. And hhhwc winning their first few before odessa even was in WL makes them better. gotcha
 
ufshowboat
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Valhalla was the most dominant team ever (best win %).
Mojo is the greatest champion ever (most rings).
HHWC is the winningest franchise ever (most wins).

I think all 3 of these teams have the right to be called GOAT.
Each of these 3 teams have accomplished something the other 2 have not.
Each of these 3 teams has good arguments FOR and AGAINST being GOAT.

That makes for a great debate. We all win.



 
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Originally posted by ghuffman
So having a strong network for your franchise is a bad thing. And hhhwc winning their first few before odessa even was in WL makes them better. gotcha

Having the DS network of dots to choose from would be like an NFL team having an extra $30 million in cap space. That alone certainly doesn't mean you're going to win, as you still need to make the right decisions on dots and then have great coordinators, but it's an undeniably large advantage. It's also not really debatable that the World League was much more competitive - and thus harder to win - before s30 or so when GLB started to decline significantly.

Originally posted by ufshowboat
Valhalla was the most dominant team ever (best win %).
Mojo is the greatest champion ever (most rings).
HHWC is the winningest franchise ever (most wins).

I think all 3 of these teams have the right to be called GOAT.
Each of these 3 teams have accomplished something the other 2 have not.
Each of these 3 teams has good arguments FOR and AGAINST being GOAT.

That makes for a great debate. We all win.


 
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I wish I knew how it felt to win 59 out of 60 WL games.
I wish I knew how it felt to 4-peat.
I don't.
But I am a doctor and I do specialize in feet. No wait. That's Creek.
I have nothing.
 
blitz39
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Step 1 Make friends on GLB
Step 2 Have friends build dots
Step 3 Have said dots join your teams - Mix and Match
Step 4 Watch people complain about collusion, and how you have a "network" to pull from
Step 5 rinse and repeat.

How is having a pool to choose from a bad thing? seems to me everyone can do the same thing, except some people cant make friends is the only problem i see here
 
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Originally posted by blitz39
Step 1 Make friends on GLB
Step 2 Have friends build dots
Step 3 Have said dots join your teams - Mix and Match
Step 4 Watch people complain about collusion, and how you have a "network" to pull from
Step 5 rinse and repeat.

How is having a pool to choose from a bad thing? seems to me everyone can do the same thing, except some people cant make friends is the only problem i see here


 
DarkRogue
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Originally posted by blitz39
Step 1 Make friends on GLB
Step 2 Have friends build dots
Step 3 Have said dots join your teams - Mix and Match
Step 4 Watch people complain about collusion, and how you have a "network" to pull from
Step 5 rinse and repeat.

How is having a pool to choose from a bad thing? seems to me everyone can do the same thing, except some people cant make friends is the only problem i see here


Kids are mad because they try so hard and repeatedly get their asses handed to them. Then come the excuses. That's all that argument is.
 
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Originally posted by jdbolick

You're getting confused again. w_alloy dropped every player from Valhalla's roster after that third championship:


You are the confused one. Boomer was happy about being recruited to Valhalla and w_alloy was ready to go for another run but he opted out at the last minute.
 
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Originally posted by jdbolick
Well that's not true at all. Alloy didn't just have the best dots, he figured out the very best plays of that sim and spammed them. Isn't that essentially what you still tell people to do? Don't you also routinely point out that tautology never won anything of consequence because he only had the dots and not the coordination to go with it?


He ran the same plays as everyone else. His dots were just that much superior to everyone. Taut's offensive dots were awful. I know I seen all their builds and routinely told him so.
 
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Originally posted by jdbolick

You need to stop saying that. You forget how long it took dots to reach plateau before accelerated leveling, and that they only had one season of plateau back then. Accusing w_alloy of "pussing out" because he quit after winning 59 out of 60 World League games is probably the dumbest thing you have ever posted on this site.

Yet again:
* Valhalla's first championship came the season before their dots hit plateau.

* Valhalla's third championship came when the roster was in the first season of decline.

* No other team has ever had an undefeated season including the playoffs. Valhalla did it twice in a row. No one else has won a title with fewer than two losses.

* Valhalla had a WL winning percentage of .983. The next best three seasons (not even consecutive) of any WL team is HHWC at .900.

* They won their three title games by 19, 30, and 31 points.

* They lost only one World League game ever (by one point to MPHD in s13 while still before plateau).

* Only once were they ever held scoreless for an entire half (by me - woot!).


I don't care for the excuses why he pussed out. He pussed out.
 
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