tell me why you think such high strength is so beneficial? You think it's more important than slightly higher blocking and/or agility?
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Homage
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Originally posted by Darren McFadden
tell me why you think such high strength is so beneficial? You think it's more important than slightly higher blocking and/or agility?
I think strength and agility are more important in blocking than blocking itself. Blocking will help hold the block... but strength and agility will ensure that you stay in front and don't get knocked over. Granted... you could argue that not having enough blocking can enable DE's to reverse pancake but having a high strength value can add to that as well. I'm definitely not sure on any of these things as I've never seen a high level blocking TE build... these are just my ideas/thoughts.
tell me why you think such high strength is so beneficial? You think it's more important than slightly higher blocking and/or agility?
I think strength and agility are more important in blocking than blocking itself. Blocking will help hold the block... but strength and agility will ensure that you stay in front and don't get knocked over. Granted... you could argue that not having enough blocking can enable DE's to reverse pancake but having a high strength value can add to that as well. I'm definitely not sure on any of these things as I've never seen a high level blocking TE build... these are just my ideas/thoughts.
Darren McFadden
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I'm not convinced that str+agi keep you in front if you do lose the blocking roll, but I'm not convinced you're wrong either o.O
Anyway good to get your thoughts, I know you at least go by what you see in the dot-plays instead of what you think it should be.
Anyway good to get your thoughts, I know you at least go by what you see in the dot-plays instead of what you think it should be.
Homage
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UPDATE:
Blocking TE Attributes:
Freight Freight Train Coming (Lv. 33 TE)
Ht/Wt: 6'2", 249lbs
Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 108.28 (+26)
Speed: 32.84
Agility: 64.84
Jumping: 8
Stamina: 29.84
Vision: 53.28
Confidence: 14.84
Football Skills
Blocking: 68.28
Catching: 27.28
Tackling: 14.84
Throwing: 8
Carrying: 14.84
Kicking: 8
Punting: 8
Special Abilities
Blocking Abilities
Run Block: 4
Pass Block: 1
Hands: 1
Get Low: 1
Pancake: 1
Receiving Abilities
Route Running: 0
Sticky Hands: 0
Quick Cut: 0
Cover Up: 0
Lower the Shoulder: 0
Veteran Abilities
Downfield Blocker: 5
Outside Blocker: 5
Showboat Blocker: 3
I'm continuing to push agility up to the 3rd cap. I may go to the 4th before moving onto speed but I'm not entirely sure just yet. I have been extremely busy with school/work so I've been unable to properly examine his blocking skills over the past season. Come winter break I'll be able to look it over some. However, he did do very well in equal competition terms where he would typically net a handful of pancakes.. but stats don't really tell the story so I'll need to watch his play on the field later.
Receiving TE Attributes:
Post Acid Youth (Lv. 22 TE)
Ht/Wt: 6'5", 229lbs
Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 75.38
Speed: 13.53
Agility: 20.53
Jumping: 9
Stamina: 13.53
Vision: 51.38
Confidence: 18.53
Football Skills
Blocking: 21.38
Catching: 77.38 (+12)
Tackling: 13.53
Throwing: 8
Carrying: 25.53
Kicking: 8
Punting: 8
No SA's/VA's currently.
I'm currently training carrying/confidence because I was planning on single training carrying for shopping tokens in the hopes that I would be able to 1 cap it some point in the mid season and move towards triple capping it... but with the changes to the AEQ I may end up moving back to training agi/spd since I want to get agility up just as high and I can work on speed as well. He didn't really get much love from the OC this year so his receiving stats are a little uninspiring compared to last season. However, he did do well in the blocking aspect which at least gives me some sense of security because I wanted him to be a viable option for blocking due to the effect of tagging etc.
Anyways, these are just my updates for now. I'll fill you in more after the season overchange when I can boost them and finish off certain caps.
Blocking TE Attributes:
Freight Freight Train Coming (Lv. 33 TE)
Ht/Wt: 6'2", 249lbs
Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 108.28 (+26)
Speed: 32.84
Agility: 64.84
Jumping: 8
Stamina: 29.84
Vision: 53.28
Confidence: 14.84
Football Skills
Blocking: 68.28
Catching: 27.28
Tackling: 14.84
Throwing: 8
Carrying: 14.84
Kicking: 8
Punting: 8
Special Abilities
Blocking Abilities
Run Block: 4
Pass Block: 1
Hands: 1
Get Low: 1
Pancake: 1
Receiving Abilities
Route Running: 0
Sticky Hands: 0
Quick Cut: 0
Cover Up: 0
Lower the Shoulder: 0
Veteran Abilities
Downfield Blocker: 5
Outside Blocker: 5
Showboat Blocker: 3
I'm continuing to push agility up to the 3rd cap. I may go to the 4th before moving onto speed but I'm not entirely sure just yet. I have been extremely busy with school/work so I've been unable to properly examine his blocking skills over the past season. Come winter break I'll be able to look it over some. However, he did do very well in equal competition terms where he would typically net a handful of pancakes.. but stats don't really tell the story so I'll need to watch his play on the field later.
Receiving TE Attributes:
Post Acid Youth (Lv. 22 TE)
Ht/Wt: 6'5", 229lbs
Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 75.38
Speed: 13.53
Agility: 20.53
Jumping: 9
Stamina: 13.53
Vision: 51.38
Confidence: 18.53
Football Skills
Blocking: 21.38
Catching: 77.38 (+12)
Tackling: 13.53
Throwing: 8
Carrying: 25.53
Kicking: 8
Punting: 8
No SA's/VA's currently.
I'm currently training carrying/confidence because I was planning on single training carrying for shopping tokens in the hopes that I would be able to 1 cap it some point in the mid season and move towards triple capping it... but with the changes to the AEQ I may end up moving back to training agi/spd since I want to get agility up just as high and I can work on speed as well. He didn't really get much love from the OC this year so his receiving stats are a little uninspiring compared to last season. However, he did do well in the blocking aspect which at least gives me some sense of security because I wanted him to be a viable option for blocking due to the effect of tagging etc.
Anyways, these are just my updates for now. I'll fill you in more after the season overchange when I can boost them and finish off certain caps.
mnc
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strenght was also a key to my rec TE.... it helped a lot against those knocked loose shit passes i was getting tired of...
Frede
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This looks very interesting.
I wanted to try and build a possession style TE myself, and 68-capped catching and 48-capped vision in his first season.
He currently look like this:
Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 18.5
Speed: 12.21
Agility: 13.21
Jumping: 9
Stamina: 12.21
Vision: 48.5
Confidence: 12.21
Football Skills
Blocking: 17.5
Catching: 83.5 (+14)
Tackling: 12.21
Throwing: 8
Carrying: 12.21
Kicking: 9
Punting: 9
He didnīt catch many passes, but then again we didnīt throw many passes either.
I had planned on getting speed and agility up yo about 48, but based on this I might just 68 cap (at least) strength first. I will be following your development with anticipation, so please keep us posted
Edit: What are your thoughts on 60-capping vision before either speed/agility or strength gets any love?
I wanted to try and build a possession style TE myself, and 68-capped catching and 48-capped vision in his first season.
He currently look like this:
Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 18.5
Speed: 12.21
Agility: 13.21
Jumping: 9
Stamina: 12.21
Vision: 48.5
Confidence: 12.21
Football Skills
Blocking: 17.5
Catching: 83.5 (+14)
Tackling: 12.21
Throwing: 8
Carrying: 12.21
Kicking: 9
Punting: 9
He didnīt catch many passes, but then again we didnīt throw many passes either.
I had planned on getting speed and agility up yo about 48, but based on this I might just 68 cap (at least) strength first. I will be following your development with anticipation, so please keep us posted
Edit: What are your thoughts on 60-capping vision before either speed/agility or strength gets any love?
Edited by Frede on Nov 28, 2009 01:55:53
Homage
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Originally posted by Frede
What are your thoughts on 60-capping vision before either speed/agility or strength gets any love?
I see absolutely nothing wrong with that approach. The gains from catching/vision are much larger than speed/agility. From your build, I would start intense training either strength/carrying or speed/agility depending on which direction you want to go. You don't have to involve strength at all... plenty of pass catching TE's have not used strength as a major part of their builds and I don't see why you can't go without it... but simply follow your vision of what you want your guy to look like and you'll usually be happy with the results.
The reason I went strength is because I plan on getting carrying/agility all 68+ maybe even 74+ each in the attempt of becoming a power receiving TE. He will be targeted often in the hopes that he'll catch a pass and break a couple tackles based on his attributes. We'll see if it ends up working, I have no idea.
What are your thoughts on 60-capping vision before either speed/agility or strength gets any love?
I see absolutely nothing wrong with that approach. The gains from catching/vision are much larger than speed/agility. From your build, I would start intense training either strength/carrying or speed/agility depending on which direction you want to go. You don't have to involve strength at all... plenty of pass catching TE's have not used strength as a major part of their builds and I don't see why you can't go without it... but simply follow your vision of what you want your guy to look like and you'll usually be happy with the results.
The reason I went strength is because I plan on getting carrying/agility all 68+ maybe even 74+ each in the attempt of becoming a power receiving TE. He will be targeted often in the hopes that he'll catch a pass and break a couple tackles based on his attributes. We'll see if it ends up working, I have no idea.
Frede
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I will 60-cap vision and then work on agility and speed then.
Weīll see how it works out, and I will keep you updated here.
Weīll see how it works out, and I will keep you updated here.
Homage
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Build Updates:
Blocking TE: http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1400854
Freight Freight Train Coming (Lv. 44 TE)
Ht/Wt: 6'2", 249lbs
Experience, Skill Points, and Cash
Money: $289933
Daily Salary: $5202
Skill Points: 0
Training Points: 3
Bonus Tokens: 2
Veteran Points: 0
Next Level: 691/1000
Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 113.94 (+29)
Speed: 33.71
Agility: 73.71
Jumping: 8
Stamina: 33.71
Vision: 60.94
Confidence: 36.71 (+3)
Football Skills
Blocking: 74.94
Catching: 29.94
Tackling: 15.71
Throwing: 8
Carrying: 23.71
Kicking: 8
Punting: 8
Special Abilities
Blocking Abilities
Run Block: 5
Pass Block: 1
Hands: 1
Get Low: 1
Pancake: 1
Receiving Abilities
Route Running: 0
Sticky Hands: 0
Quick Cut: 0
Cover Up: 0
Lower the Shoulder: 0
Veteran Abilities
Downfield Blocker: 15
Outside Blocker: 12
Receiving TE: http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1583835
Post Acid Youth (Lv. 33 TE)
Ht/Wt: 6'5", 229lbs
Experience, Skill Points, and Cash
Money: $791912
Daily Salary: $3880
Skill Points: 1
Training Points: 4
Bonus Tokens: 1
Veteran Points: 0
Next Level: 611/1000
Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 79.16
Speed: 41.8 (+26)
Agility: 22.8
Jumping: 9
Stamina: 16.8
Vision: 64.16
Confidence: 33.8
Football Skills
Blocking: 25.16
Catching: 72.16
Tackling: 14.8
Throwing: 8
Carrying: 60.8
Kicking: 8
Punting: 8
Special Abilities
Blocking Abilities
Run Block: 0
Pass Block: 0
Hands: 0
Get Low: 0
Pancake: 0
Receiving Abilities
Route Running: 1
Sticky Hands: 1
Quick Cut: 1
Cover Up: 1
Lower the Shoulder: 1
Veteran Abilities
Possession Receiver: 2
YAC attack: 10
Blocking TE: http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1400854
Freight Freight Train Coming (Lv. 44 TE)
Ht/Wt: 6'2", 249lbs
Experience, Skill Points, and Cash
Money: $289933
Daily Salary: $5202
Skill Points: 0
Training Points: 3
Bonus Tokens: 2
Veteran Points: 0
Next Level: 691/1000
Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 113.94 (+29)
Speed: 33.71
Agility: 73.71
Jumping: 8
Stamina: 33.71
Vision: 60.94
Confidence: 36.71 (+3)
Football Skills
Blocking: 74.94
Catching: 29.94
Tackling: 15.71
Throwing: 8
Carrying: 23.71
Kicking: 8
Punting: 8
Special Abilities
Blocking Abilities
Run Block: 5
Pass Block: 1
Hands: 1
Get Low: 1
Pancake: 1
Receiving Abilities
Route Running: 0
Sticky Hands: 0
Quick Cut: 0
Cover Up: 0
Lower the Shoulder: 0
Veteran Abilities
Downfield Blocker: 15
Outside Blocker: 12
Receiving TE: http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1583835
Post Acid Youth (Lv. 33 TE)
Ht/Wt: 6'5", 229lbs
Experience, Skill Points, and Cash
Money: $791912
Daily Salary: $3880
Skill Points: 1
Training Points: 4
Bonus Tokens: 1
Veteran Points: 0
Next Level: 611/1000
Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 79.16
Speed: 41.8 (+26)
Agility: 22.8
Jumping: 9
Stamina: 16.8
Vision: 64.16
Confidence: 33.8
Football Skills
Blocking: 25.16
Catching: 72.16
Tackling: 14.8
Throwing: 8
Carrying: 60.8
Kicking: 8
Punting: 8
Special Abilities
Blocking Abilities
Run Block: 0
Pass Block: 0
Hands: 0
Get Low: 0
Pancake: 0
Receiving Abilities
Route Running: 1
Sticky Hands: 1
Quick Cut: 1
Cover Up: 1
Lower the Shoulder: 1
Veteran Abilities
Possession Receiver: 2
YAC attack: 10
agkarcher
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I like your approach to your receiving TE. The biggest obstacle is getting on a team willing to work your TE into the game plan. I mean they'll never burn the secondary for a TD, but the ratio of targeted / incomplete is better than WR's. Good for medium yardage & first downs.
The OC has to know that, and plug you into the depth chart @ WR4 or WR5 before you can realize how much gain you'll get from your strong receiving TE.
I have never had a TE with that kind of strength, but I have noticed that if there is a CB or SS (strength: 14) anywhere near the TE (strength: 50+) the TE goes down. -- not fair. The SIM should have them breaking more tackles or at least more yac.
The OC has to know that, and plug you into the depth chart @ WR4 or WR5 before you can realize how much gain you'll get from your strong receiving TE.
I have never had a TE with that kind of strength, but I have noticed that if there is a CB or SS (strength: 14) anywhere near the TE (strength: 50+) the TE goes down. -- not fair. The SIM should have them breaking more tackles or at least more yac.
Kyriakin
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http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1317399
Coming along, but maybe waited too long on str/block before moving on. Will see how he looks at Day 320.
My Day 440 TE also has base blocking and strength at 85-ish (strength nearly 120 with equip), but he was a bit on the slow side until Day 400.
Coming along, but maybe waited too long on str/block before moving on. Will see how he looks at Day 320.
My Day 440 TE also has base blocking and strength at 85-ish (strength nearly 120 with equip), but he was a bit on the slow side until Day 400.
Edited by Kyriakin on Mar 21, 2010 10:24:16
Gabaloo
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http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=153513
was top 10 in pancakes in pro league for a couple years
was top 10 in pancakes in pro league for a couple years
Rage Kinard
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my only thing with the receiving TE is why not pump the crap out of jumping as well? Then throw prime time player on him and make him a huge red zone threat.
Homage
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Blocking TE: http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1400854
Freight Freight Train Coming (Lv. 59 TE)
Ht/Wt: 6'2", 249lbs
Experience, Skill Points, and Cash
Money: $0
Daily Salary: $7162
Skill Points: 2
Training Points: 0
Bonus Tokens: 19
Veteran Points: 0
Next Level: 16/1000
Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 130.49 (+43)
Speed: 67.81
Agility: 80.26
Jumping: 8
Stamina: 41.81
Vision: 64.49
Confidence: 49.26
Football Skills
Blocking: 77.49
Catching: 32.04
Tackling: 15.71
Throwing: 8
Carrying: 23.71
Kicking: 8
Punting: 8
Special Abilities
Blocking Abilities
Run Block: 5
Pass Block: 1
Hands: 1
Get Low: 1
Pancake: 1
Receiving Abilities
Route Running: 0
Sticky Hands: 0
Quick Cut: 0
Cover Up: 0
Lower the Shoulder: 0
Additional Abilities
Pummel: 0
Veteran Abilities
Downfield Blocker: 15
Overtime Killer: 1
Outside Blocker: 15
Showboat Blocker: 13
Solid as ever and only continues to get better. I'm debating bringing speed up to 74 or working on SA's.
Power Receiving TE: http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1583835
Post Acid Youth (Lv. 47 TE)
Ht/Wt: 6'5", 229lbs
Experience, Skill Points, and Cash
Money: $0
Daily Salary: $5650
Skill Points: 1
Training Points: 0
Bonus Tokens: 22
Veteran Points: 0
Next Level: 936/1000
Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 81.84
Speed: 61.01 (+27)
Agility: 61.48
Jumping: 9
Stamina: 25.01
Vision: 64.16
Confidence: 51.48
Football Skills
Blocking: 27.37
Catching: 74.84
Tackling: 14.8
Throwing: 8
Carrying: 71.48
Kicking: 8
Punting: 8
Special Abilities
Blocking Abilities
Run Block: 0
Pass Block: 0
Hands: 0
Get Low: 0
Pancake: 0
Receiving Abilities
Route Running: 1
Sticky Hands: 1
Quick Cut: 1
Cover Up: 1
Lower the Shoulder: 1
Additional Abilities
Catch Fake: 0
Power Through: 4
Veteran Abilities
Bruiser: 8
Possession Receiver: 10
YAC attack: 10
I finally have a team that has promised to utilize him this season. So we'll see if his production is worthwhile.
Freight Freight Train Coming (Lv. 59 TE)
Ht/Wt: 6'2", 249lbs
Experience, Skill Points, and Cash
Money: $0
Daily Salary: $7162
Skill Points: 2
Training Points: 0
Bonus Tokens: 19
Veteran Points: 0
Next Level: 16/1000
Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 130.49 (+43)
Speed: 67.81
Agility: 80.26
Jumping: 8
Stamina: 41.81
Vision: 64.49
Confidence: 49.26
Football Skills
Blocking: 77.49
Catching: 32.04
Tackling: 15.71
Throwing: 8
Carrying: 23.71
Kicking: 8
Punting: 8
Special Abilities
Blocking Abilities
Run Block: 5
Pass Block: 1
Hands: 1
Get Low: 1
Pancake: 1
Receiving Abilities
Route Running: 0
Sticky Hands: 0
Quick Cut: 0
Cover Up: 0
Lower the Shoulder: 0
Additional Abilities
Pummel: 0
Veteran Abilities
Downfield Blocker: 15
Overtime Killer: 1
Outside Blocker: 15
Showboat Blocker: 13
Solid as ever and only continues to get better. I'm debating bringing speed up to 74 or working on SA's.
Power Receiving TE: http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1583835
Post Acid Youth (Lv. 47 TE)
Ht/Wt: 6'5", 229lbs
Experience, Skill Points, and Cash
Money: $0
Daily Salary: $5650
Skill Points: 1
Training Points: 0
Bonus Tokens: 22
Veteran Points: 0
Next Level: 936/1000
Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 81.84
Speed: 61.01 (+27)
Agility: 61.48
Jumping: 9
Stamina: 25.01
Vision: 64.16
Confidence: 51.48
Football Skills
Blocking: 27.37
Catching: 74.84
Tackling: 14.8
Throwing: 8
Carrying: 71.48
Kicking: 8
Punting: 8
Special Abilities
Blocking Abilities
Run Block: 0
Pass Block: 0
Hands: 0
Get Low: 0
Pancake: 0
Receiving Abilities
Route Running: 1
Sticky Hands: 1
Quick Cut: 1
Cover Up: 1
Lower the Shoulder: 1
Additional Abilities
Catch Fake: 0
Power Through: 4
Veteran Abilities
Bruiser: 8
Possession Receiver: 10
YAC attack: 10
I finally have a team that has promised to utilize him this season. So we'll see if his production is worthwhile.
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